Interest in legit CFD designed/proven carnards for Evo??
Interest in legit CFD designed/proven carnards for Evo??
I've been working with Verus Engineering (formerly Velox Motorsports before the name change) on my Aero bits and recently visited and saw a lot of their parts and design process first hand. I have heard a lot of guys over the years say they wished there was a front canard/dive plane for the OEM Evo bumpers that was tested and proven and bolt on that made some real differences.
Verus has done CFD designed canards for several platforms so far and I asked them about the Evo and they said they'd love to get into that market if there was a demand. Any guys seriously interested? I'd love to help bring a product to market that is truly motorsports grade, CFD tested and proven, and could benefit a bunch of folks. Their canards are true pre-preg dry carbon and I think for other platforms run around $300. If enough guys are interested maybe I can talk Paul and Eric into going through the process of laser scanning stock E8 and E9 Evos, modeling and designing and producing these.
Here is a link to one of their Porsche canard products. . .
https://www.verus-engineering.com/pr...ane-canard-kit
Verus has done CFD designed canards for several platforms so far and I asked them about the Evo and they said they'd love to get into that market if there was a demand. Any guys seriously interested? I'd love to help bring a product to market that is truly motorsports grade, CFD tested and proven, and could benefit a bunch of folks. Their canards are true pre-preg dry carbon and I think for other platforms run around $300. If enough guys are interested maybe I can talk Paul and Eric into going through the process of laser scanning stock E8 and E9 Evos, modeling and designing and producing these.
Here is a link to one of their Porsche canard products. . .
https://www.verus-engineering.com/pr...ane-canard-kit
I would 100% be in except I dont know if they'll be big enough for the limits of what I can use. I think I would buy a set regardless to support them and get some good Evo designs and maybe make a second element using the rest of my sqft allowance.
I'm sure that they'd make whatever is a consensus on the most desired size for the most popular classes. For the newer platforms they focus primarily on best performance/asthetics I believe, but for the Evo most of the guys who would buy this are primarily performance focused. But I come at this from the performance side vs the "stance" side so maybe I'm biased :-)
I think building around something common like a 5-6" splitter but the direction of "do this, do that, bolt on these dive planes" would be a huge bump.
Im looking at that 5-6" length splitter but with the rear of the fenders spaced out and overall pulled for about 1.25" wider than OEM. I can push aero out to the fender width at the wheel center so my splitter will be much wider than most and with a splitter fence blocking the tires. So I would probably even be willing to buy his parts (assuming he's taking into account a proper splitter), and just use them as my own template for even bigger.
Im looking at that 5-6" length splitter but with the rear of the fenders spaced out and overall pulled for about 1.25" wider than OEM. I can push aero out to the fender width at the wheel center so my splitter will be much wider than most and with a splitter fence blocking the tires. So I would probably even be willing to buy his parts (assuming he's taking into account a proper splitter), and just use them as my own template for even bigger.
“Through our back to back testing with GearOnePerformance, we were able to increase corner speeds by 5-6 MPH with the additon of our dive planes only.”
Really? That sounds like a massive gain for a couple of dive planes.
Really? That sounds like a massive gain for a couple of dive planes.
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From discussing it with them, part of the gain came from shifting the aero balance forward and making the car more balanced. Some of the gain came from the driver having more confidence in the corners due to a better balanced, easier to drive car.
Interested. Just want to see CFD and data-logged evidence of effect. There are plenty of bolt on dive planes/canards for Evos, none of them come with the data to back them up.
Would these be for stock bumpers/bodywork? Wide fenders? Splitters?
Would these be for stock bumpers/bodywork? Wide fenders? Splitters?
Each aftermarket bumper company already makes canards for their bumper. If I can get Verus to do this for the Evo, it would be for ONLY OEM bumpers on Evo 8, 9, X. That 3 separate cars they'd have to scan, and 3 designs with CFD data, and 3 sets of production mold to make. So lots of work. . .
Yeah, definitely lots of work. Maybe if they get everything scanned I can throw some money at them to do an oversized low speed (AutoX) design and I can just fabricate it myself.
That is exactly what they do. Everything is 100% CFD optimized from 3-d laser scans of each individual platform they do. So fitment is perfect, and performance benefits are proven. They have tons of CFD data on their IG page and website.
Each aftermarket bumper company already makes canards for their bumper. If I can get Verus to do this for the Evo, it would be for ONLY OEM bumpers on Evo 8, 9, X. That 3 separate cars they'd have to scan, and 3 designs with CFD data, and 3 sets of production mold to make. So lots of work. . .
Each aftermarket bumper company already makes canards for their bumper. If I can get Verus to do this for the Evo, it would be for ONLY OEM bumpers on Evo 8, 9, X. That 3 separate cars they'd have to scan, and 3 designs with CFD data, and 3 sets of production mold to make. So lots of work. . .
https://doitforalivingpodcast.com/bl...us-engineering
The only thing it seemed that they don't do is any real world testing - data-logging on cars. That's based on lurking on their webpage, IG, and listening to this podcast.
I also know that the One Lap Evo, which I thought you drove, is having their custom AMB Aero kit manufactured by Verus. I really am excited to see how that car comes together. I don't doubt the group, and am interested if they do dive planes for the Evo, especially a stock bumper w/ a 5-6" basic front splitter, which is the TA/TT standard.
I'm familiar with Verus, I became aware of them after they showed up on the DoItForALiving Podcast
https://doitforalivingpodcast.com/bl...us-engineering
The only thing it seemed that they don't do is any real world testing - data-logging on cars. That's based on lurking on their webpage, IG, and listening to this podcast.
I also know that the One Lap Evo, which I thought you drove, is having their custom AMB Aero kit manufactured by Verus. I really am excited to see how that car comes together. I don't doubt the group, and am interested if they do dive planes for the Evo, especially a stock bumper w/ a 5-6" basic front splitter, which is the TA/TT standard.
https://doitforalivingpodcast.com/bl...us-engineering
The only thing it seemed that they don't do is any real world testing - data-logging on cars. That's based on lurking on their webpage, IG, and listening to this podcast.
I also know that the One Lap Evo, which I thought you drove, is having their custom AMB Aero kit manufactured by Verus. I really am excited to see how that car comes together. I don't doubt the group, and am interested if they do dive planes for the Evo, especially a stock bumper w/ a 5-6" basic front splitter, which is the TA/TT standard.
If I can get them interested in the Evo platform and it looks like there is a big enough demand maybe we can get a functional package.
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