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Old Oct 20, 2018, 09:00 AM
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Not sure if anyone brought up the new ATS carbon stuff yet. I got 2 events now with both front/rear and it has changed the car completely. I've never felt this car pull itself out of the corners so well before. Defiantly worth looking into.


what front diff did you have prior?
Old Oct 21, 2018, 06:20 AM
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what front diff did you have prior?
Stock front, ACD Center, and a 12plate rear.
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I do really want the OSG rear, how much are people paying for them? I think my TRE 12plate is getting a bit old at this point so its a reasonable time to start looking for an upgrade/rebuild.
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Andy,

What specific front ATS LSD are you now using please?
Do you know any specific settings of it: number of springs used (if their design uses them), ramp angle, pre-load setting?

Maybe you can describe a little how the chassis attitude changed from corner entry under brakes to exit under power, going from the original setup (Weir 12 plate, ACD, Torsen front) to new setup (ATS rear LSD, ACD, ATS front LSD).

Rear LSD probably is now a little softer engaging, but did not significantly change chassis behavior, but front LSD made a big difference: how?

Thank you.
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thanks. very informative.
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Originally Posted by alpinaturbo
Andy,

What specific front ATS LSD are you now using please?
Do you know any specific settings of it: number of springs used (if their design uses them), ramp angle, pre-load setting?

Maybe you can describe a little how the chassis attitude changed from corner entry under brakes to exit under power, going from the original setup (Weir 12 plate, ACD, Torsen front) to new setup (ATS rear LSD, ACD, ATS front LSD).

Rear LSD probably is now a little softer engaging, but did not significantly change chassis behavior, but front LSD made a big difference: how?

Thank you.
That kinda looks like Jon's bench too lol. So maybe TRE is offering those disc's now?

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Old Oct 21, 2018, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOizmm
Stock front, ACD Center, and a 12plate rear.
i think actually that front diff is going to make a huge difference, as opposed to the rear diff being particularly special. i've looked at the carbon stuff, frankly all the salisbury diffs are just some combination of preload and lockup behavior/characteristics. looks like the hybrid uses some combinations of carbon and metal disks for softer and harder lockup, but maybe there is something i'm missing here.

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I do really want the OSG rear, how much are people paying for them? I think my TRE 12plate is getting a bit old at this point so its a reasonable time to start looking for an upgrade/rebuild.
i'll pm you how much i paid
Old Oct 21, 2018, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Balrok
That kinda looks like Jon's bench too lol. So maybe TRE is offering those disc's now?
Jon posted this on IG. But I *think* the ATS is a complete diff carrier, not just disks.
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Old Oct 22, 2018, 06:47 AM
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I had Jon at TRE put the new ATS in another rear diff so I could turn the current 12plate rear diff into a spare.

The car feels very composed under braking but the biggest difference is coming out of a corner while on power, the car has no understeer anymore, pulls the front end around the turn.

I'm using ATS's OTS Evo IX diffs, exactly like the came out of the box.
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Thank you Andy.
Its what we wanted to hear...pulling out with no understeer under power.
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Andy, are you running the metal or carbon versions?
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Running their Hybrid setup.
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bumping this - i've got the OSG in the car, but as soon as I did the weather turned to **** and I haven't been out yet. I disconnected the rear trailing arm when I simultaneously swapped the rear sway bars, and I need an alignment before I do any real driving. I've been thinking about this topic and had one question

obviously 1.5 ways lock on accel and partially lock on decel - I've been hypothesizing that this is the reason for my corner entry understeer - but, depending on driving style, if you're not decelerating much by the time you enter a corner/if you're even briefly coasting, doesn't that mean the diff is not locking at all, forwards or reverse? basically, coast = not accelerating or decelerating with any significant amount of force, then no lock?
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If the transmission is in gear, and you're off throttle, there is decel force on the diff. I've never seen someone enter a comer on maintenance throttle unless it's a high speed sweeper.
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I would think your running on preload then, but I guess it depends on how each diff is set up.


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