5-Speed Complete Lockout
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
From: Autocrossing Somewhere
Like I said now that you mention it, yes it did. But it has felt touch and go since day one so I guess I didn't realize it until KevinD explained it to me. Sometimes at red lights even it just kind of didn't have any resistance, I just thought it was ****ty Mitsu quality...which it was I guess.
Are you 100% sold on the motor mounts? What stiffness are they? The AMS race durometer motor mount was just about the worst mod that I did on my car for day to day drivability.
I loved my ACT 6 puck though once I got used to it
Many, many launches without any issue!
Is Shep doing anything to xfer cases and transmissions yet? If so, and you can afford to have the car down for a while longer, I really recommend having him stiffen things up. I was really worried about the pins that were shearing off in the transmission.
I loved my ACT 6 puck though once I got used to it
Many, many launches without any issue!Is Shep doing anything to xfer cases and transmissions yet? If so, and you can afford to have the car down for a while longer, I really recommend having him stiffen things up. I was really worried about the pins that were shearing off in the transmission.
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
From: Autocrossing Somewhere
I cannot imagine owning another car. I really have enjoyed my car. I have gotten frustrated with it many times but my frustration was caused by me or someone else. I really don't look at my car like a car, I wish I did. My wife tells me all the time it's just an A-B car...it gets you from A-B. I have spent probably 1-2 hours longer doing anything to it than anyone else. I probably treat my car better than my blood relatives...oh wait I do. (my son excluded)
Having my car in the shop is like waiting in a hospital waiting room to find out if the operation was successful, had complications, or a complete failure.

By the same token, if someone said you have to trash your car with this here hammer to help a family member free of charge...I would but I wouldn't feel good afterwards.
Last edited by SiliconTek; Nov 20, 2011 at 07:27 AM.
My AMS front mm was plastic, but was of the higher stiffness. I think you've got it well planned out though

Have you installed the roll center correction kit? Front sway bar? Both are good "while we're in there" type changes.
That is very true. When i did my clutch and AMS ring I did the front sways. Overlapping labor.
Sean, did you notice a difference with the RCK?? I've heard some say it's great and other say it's not needed on the X
Sean, did you notice a difference with the RCK?? I've heard some say it's great and other say it's not needed on the X
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
From: Autocrossing Somewhere
This is 100% why I got rid of the Evo. I was anticipating the ventilation and I wasn't sure that I'd be able to survive it lol.
My AMS front mm was plastic, but was of the higher stiffness. I think you've got it well planned out though
Have you installed the roll center correction kit? Front sway bar? Both are good "while we're in there" type changes.
My AMS front mm was plastic, but was of the higher stiffness. I think you've got it well planned out though

Have you installed the roll center correction kit? Front sway bar? Both are good "while we're in there" type changes.
I have had my roll center checked by PTP and they didn't recommend it. I will re-evaluate it next season (January) if I need it after dropping the car another inch, I have to accommodate for suspension wear and realign anyhow.
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
From: Autocrossing Somewhere
So I guess we are getting differing information? Did you pay extra to drop the sub-frame? Because if they do drop it to do the clutch I want a set of Hotchkis bars installed.
When we put on my front sway we just lowered the subframe and left it bolted up. Richard and I did it together. It likely took a bit longer due to having to work it in and out, but it wasn't nearly as bad as all the other stuff you have to do if you're completely dropping the subframe.
The front sway, on rcomps, is 100% necessary IMO. I put it to full soft on street tires, but on rcomps it was night and day. I had the cobb bars (at the time, they were, to me, the best balanced in terms of they front/rear stiffness compared to stock, not sure what's up now).
The RKC was the last suspension change I made. It was a very, very subtle change. For autocross, I don't think it made all that big of a difference. For the track it did because in sweepers I was experiencing bumpsteer and it was a bit scary as the car would get twitchy in turns, especially if I hit a bump (either rough track or rumble strips).
I made these two crappy graphics a while ago to help explain what's happening:


In a turn, on a lowered vehicle, the turn actually forces the wheel even further up into the chassis, causing you to have less grip, more tire wear, and in my case I actually started to bottom out when I had a lot of grip/was making a very high g turn.
The front sway, on rcomps, is 100% necessary IMO. I put it to full soft on street tires, but on rcomps it was night and day. I had the cobb bars (at the time, they were, to me, the best balanced in terms of they front/rear stiffness compared to stock, not sure what's up now).
The RKC was the last suspension change I made. It was a very, very subtle change. For autocross, I don't think it made all that big of a difference. For the track it did because in sweepers I was experiencing bumpsteer and it was a bit scary as the car would get twitchy in turns, especially if I hit a bump (either rough track or rumble strips).
I made these two crappy graphics a while ago to help explain what's happening:


In a turn, on a lowered vehicle, the turn actually forces the wheel even further up into the chassis, causing you to have less grip, more tire wear, and in my case I actually started to bottom out when I had a lot of grip/was making a very high g turn.
Actually, now that I think about it... for autox, it did make a difference in the slaloms. The car was less twitchy and transitioned better (on rcomps). Out as miserable wells it made a difference too (higher speed, rougher surface, and I typically was on street tires).
Cobb seems to stand behind and recommend the AMS ring so I also plan on getting one when/if my stock clutch needs replacement. I know they've had terrible results with the SSP CMC's and refuse to even install them anymore.
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
From: Autocrossing Somewhere
I have not read anything positive about the SSP other than it is metal vs plastic... The Magnus CMC, no thank you, I will save that one for the day I decide to gut it and repaint the entire car, that install is pretty damn ugly. I would rather pay many times over for a stocker than to have the firewall butchered like that.


