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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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any u guys have experience in sending ur ecu sumwhere to get flashd
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by garcia10
any u guys have experience in sending ur ecu sumwhere to get flashd
If you mean physically take your unit out of the car and mail it, then talk to Canexican. He sent his out to be flashed. Most will charge you more, plus shipping.
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by garcia10
any u guys have experience in sending ur ecu sumwhere to get flashd
get a wideband and pay travis to do it.
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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yeah dont f with evo guys as arbo said i'll bust out my power ranger laser gun next time and hop in my megazord
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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One of you X guys needs to buy my cams for a sick price~!~
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by garcia10
any u guys have experience in sending ur ecu sumwhere to get flashd
I got a decent 9 map. Will give it to you for FREE.
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
I got a decent 9 map. Will give it to you for FREE.
throwing random maps on a car isn't the smartest choice....even for FREE.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by arbo651
One of you X guys needs to buy my cams for a sick price~!~
matt, you get your cams installed?
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
Its not that random. It was overlayed over 2 other 9 maps i know and exactly the same(from the same tuner). difference is, 1 got it for free 2 paid for it. buschur/big al dont mind.
so once again you're out to scam someone. i see you haven't changed a bit.

welcome back, eric.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by travman
throwing random maps on a car isn't the smartest choice....even for FREE.
What on earth could go wrong?

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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
Its not that random. It was overlayed over 2 other 9 maps i know and exactly the same(from the same tuner). difference is, 1 got it for free 2 paid for it. buschur/big al dont mind.
They do.

It is a terrible idea and a big reason why tuners lock their tunes. Every car is different. A tune for one does not mean it will work on another. That is Russian Roulette - at best.

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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MondoBongo
so once again you're out to scam someone. i see you haven't changed a bit.

welcome back, eric.
Dont really see it as a scam. If you paid for a service which you thought was unique, only to find it the exact same as many others then what did you pay for? R&D is out of the question after so many tunes.

Besides I could tell you 3 others rocking (a similar) tune, and they are all running almost 11's with bolt ons.

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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
Dont really see it as a scam. If you paid for a service which you thought was unique, only to find it the exact same as many others then what did you pay for? R&D is out of the question after so many tunes.

Besides I could tell you 3 others rocking (a similar) tune, and they are all running almost 11's with bolt ons.
you can try to rationalize it away in any form you like. bottom line is that giving away a product that someone else developed and sells, for free when you have no rights or claim to it, is scamming/stealing.

besides i don't think that anyone has an expectation of uniqueness from a "base flash". it doesn't explicitly or implicitly say anything about customization.

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if you still think you're right then why don't you contact someone from dynoflash or buschur and tell them to chime in here and let us all know that it is ok to give their hard work away for free.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MondoBongo
you can try to rationalize it away in any form you like. bottom line is that giving away a product that someone else developed and sells, for free when you have no rights or claim to it, is scamming/stealing.

besides i don't think that anyone has an expectation of uniqueness from a "base flash". it doesn't explicitly or implicitly say anything about customization.

-edit-

if you still think you're right then why don't you contact someone from dynoflash or buschur and tell them to chime in here and let us all know that it is ok to give their hard work away for free.
I signed no binding contract. Dont go there on hard work, because then maybe a representative from JUN will chime in and ask the same question to them. Business is business. You can use your reason all day, but it is what it is.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
I signed no binding contract. Dont go there on hard work, because then maybe a representative from JUN will chime in and ask the same question to them. Business is business. You can use your reason all day, but it is what it is.
now you're just not even making any sense. what exactly does JUN have to do with this?

you don't need to sign a binding contract. it's a simple case of intellectual property rights. they created the product, they sell the product, it is their product. it is not yours to distribute as you see fit. i know you must see yourself as some type of evoM robin hood, fighting the big corporate tuner shops, but come on now. when you boil it all down, you're just a common thief trying to make friends by giving away something which does not belong to you, and that you have no right to pass along.

ask your girlfriend. isn't she in grad school for law or something?



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