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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 06:58 AM
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I put a couple emails in for the higher ups to see if there is any wiggle room on the helmet rule considering this is a 'special event'. I will update everyone when I know more.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:01 AM
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Here is the NJ State Law that NJMP is requiring us to abide by:

13:62-3.6 Helmets and eye protection
(a) All drivers shall wear a properly secured, full face
helmet, with face shield, which meets or exceeds Snell
Memorial Foundation Testing Standards M or SA, incorporated
by reference herein, as may be amended and supplemented,
which has not reached the expiration date established by the
Snell Memorial Foundation at the time of the event. The
standards are available from the Snell Memorial Foundation,
3628 Madison Avenue, Suite 11, North Highlands, CA 95660.
A Nomex, or similar fire-resistant head sock is recommended to
be worn in conjunction with the use of the full face helmet with
shield. The use of open face helmets and goggles shall be
prohibited.
(b) "M" (Motorcycle) Snell rated helmets may be used in
all motorcycle events and automobile events where fire ratings
are not required.
(c) "SA" (Auto Special Application) Snell fire-rated
helmets shall be used in all other applications.
(d) Helmets shall not be required under certain instructional
and guided tour events where the maximum speed on the track
shall not exceed 55 miles per hour.

By definition, the only requirement is a full-face helmet with shield that hasn't expired.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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From MSR for PCA Tbolt event last fall

"Participants must wear a SNELL 00 or later approved helmet.* All open car drivers (including Cabriolets & open Targas) must wear face shields or goggles."

BMW CCA doesn't specify much other than closed face helmet

"Helmet - The state of New Jersey requires a full-face helmet with face shield installed (you do not have to use the face shield in a closed-top car). *Open-face helmets are not permitted for this event."
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by chu
Here is the NJ State Law that NJMP is requiring us to abide by:

13:62-3.6 Helmets and eye protection
(a) All drivers shall wear a properly secured, full face
helmet, with face shield, which meets or exceeds Snell
Memorial Foundation Testing Standards M or SA, incorporated
by reference herein, as may be amended and supplemented,
which has not reached the expiration date established by the
Snell Memorial Foundation at the time of the event. The
standards are available from the Snell Memorial Foundation,
3628 Madison Avenue, Suite 11, North Highlands, CA 95660.
A Nomex, or similar fire-resistant head sock is recommended to
be worn in conjunction with the use of the full face helmet with
shield. The use of open face helmets and goggles shall be
prohibited.
(b) "M" (Motorcycle) Snell rated helmets may be used in
all motorcycle events and automobile events where fire ratings
are not required.
(c) "SA" (Auto Special Application) Snell fire-rated
helmets shall be used in all other applications.
(d) Helmets shall not be required under certain instructional
and guided tour events where the maximum speed on the track
shall not exceed 55 miles per hour.


By definition, the only requirement is a full-face helmet with shield that hasn't expired.
Looks like neither you or Dan will need helmets then, the noobs can borrow yours.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dek0026
From MSR for PCA Tbolt event last fall

"Participants must wear a SNELL 00 or later approved helmet.* All open car drivers (including Cabriolets & open Targas) must wear face shields or goggles."

BMW CCA doesn't specify much other than closed face helmet

"Helmet - The state of New Jersey requires a full-face helmet with face shield installed (you do not have to use the face shield in a closed-top car). *Open-face helmets are not permitted for this event."
NASA NE's website says that full-face helmet is required, but doesn't mention it has to be Snell SA rated.


Pete, I disregard hate when it comes from a nobody!
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by chu
Here is the NJ State Law that NJMP is requiring us to abide by:

13:62-3.6 Helmets and eye protection
(a) All drivers shall wear a properly secured, full face
helmet, with face shield, which meets or exceeds Snell
Memorial Foundation Testing Standards M or SA, incorporated
by reference herein, as may be amended and supplemented,
which has not reached the expiration date established by the
Snell Memorial Foundation at the time of the event. The
standards are available from the Snell Memorial Foundation,
3628 Madison Avenue, Suite 11, North Highlands, CA 95660.
A Nomex, or similar fire-resistant head sock is recommended to
be worn in conjunction with the use of the full face helmet with
shield. The use of open face helmets and goggles shall be
prohibited.
(b) "M" (Motorcycle) Snell rated helmets may be used in
all motorcycle events and automobile events where fire ratings
are not required.
(c) "SA" (Auto Special Application) Snell fire-rated
helmets shall be used in all other applications.
(d) Helmets shall not be required under certain instructional
and guided tour events where the maximum speed on the track
shall not exceed 55 miles per hour.

By definition, the only requirement is a full-face helmet with shield that hasn't expired.

Nice! I forwarded this to NJMP.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by chu
NASA NE's website says that full-face helmet is required, but doesn't mention it has to be Snell SA rated.


Pete, I disregard hate when it comes from a nobody!
last time i ran with NASA, they told me they were moving away from allowing the M rated helmets to only allowing SA2005+. not sure if that going into effect this year though
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by chu
NASA NE's website says that full-face helmet is required, but doesn't mention it has to be Snell SA rated.


Pete, I disregard hate when it comes from a nobody!
I still loves chu.


For sure an SA is what you want and should be using if someone is gonna do this type of driving/racing.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:09 AM
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****s crazy, I'm actually having to turn people away because we need instructors!!!
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:09 AM
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Interesting they require full face in cars with airbags... I thought that was a bad idea???
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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you know this is NJ we're talking about here, right. Logic and rational thinking have no place in that state.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
you know this is NJ we're talking about here, right. Logic and rational thinking have no place in that state.
Oh yeah, forgot. My bad
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
****s crazy, I'm actually having to turn people away because we need instructors!!!
Can you reach out to any of your non-evo buddies to see if they want to instruct?
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:42 AM
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Yes, and I have. One is on-board for sure... two are not sure, yet. Haven't heard back from anyone else.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteyTurbo@KHC
I though that was RCJ...
wait, what?



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