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A Metro? Really?
Logging road fun at best, but seriously, for an actual attempt at racing, start with something that is at least...well raced! You're not going to find any aftermarket support, so it would mean fabricating and doing the math for everything! Totally not worth it IMO. You can get a 85 GTI (A2 chassis are MUCH stiffer than rabbits, and as a number of rally drivers told me make a much better starting platform than the rabbit.) and be so much farther ahead... not to mention, you could buy stuff like... struts, brakes, all the crap you won't find for that hunk of Metro..
Logging road fun at best, but seriously, for an actual attempt at racing, start with something that is at least...well raced! You're not going to find any aftermarket support, so it would mean fabricating and doing the math for everything! Totally not worth it IMO. You can get a 85 GTI (A2 chassis are MUCH stiffer than rabbits, and as a number of rally drivers told me make a much better starting platform than the rabbit.) and be so much farther ahead... not to mention, you could buy stuff like... struts, brakes, all the crap you won't find for that hunk of Metro..
Jason you keep letting me down in life.... First your in car shows, then your stumbling over basic WRC knowledge, and now this statement.... What am i going to do with you.
There is a ton of aftermarket support out there, you just have to know where to look. The Swift is still super popular to rally in Australia so you can get alot of parts from those guys. The car right now is using koni's or celica swift springs. If i ever get to the point where i feel i want to upgrade from there i will go with the 40mm bilstein's that they make for the geo/swift.
The original plan was to buy a VW or a crx in 3 or so years. But the Geo came along after a night of drinking everclear and vodka and i just could not turn down a free first car. It is one of the easiest cars to work on and by far the cheapest platform to campaign
The Geo will also be a great first car for Mike to drive. It teaches you to keep your foot to the floor at all times, witch is going to be a lot of fun once we move to another car with more power. But for the next few years i will be more then content to co-drive for the Geo, Timm's Carola, and if he ever needs me again Phil's Rabbit.
Jason you keep letting me down in life.... First your in car shows, then your stumbling over basic WRC knowledge, and now this statement.... What am i going to do with you.
There is a ton of aftermarket support out there, you just have to know where to look. The Swift is still super popular to rally in Australia so you can get alot of parts from those guys. The car right now is using koni's or celica swift springs. If i ever get to the point where i feel i want to upgrade from there i will go with the 40mm bilstein's that they make for the geo/swift.
The original plan was to buy a VW or a crx in 3 or so years. But the Geo came along after a night of drinking everclear and vodka and i just could not turn down a free first car. It is one of the easiest cars to work on and by far the cheapest platform to campaign
The Geo will also be a great first car for Mike to drive. It teaches you to keep your foot to the floor at all times, witch is going to be a lot of fun once we move to another car with more power. But for the next few years i will be more then content to co-drive for the Geo, Timm's Carola, and if he ever needs me again Phil's Rabbit.
There is a ton of aftermarket support out there, you just have to know where to look. The Swift is still super popular to rally in Australia so you can get alot of parts from those guys. The car right now is using koni's or celica swift springs. If i ever get to the point where i feel i want to upgrade from there i will go with the 40mm bilstein's that they make for the geo/swift.
The original plan was to buy a VW or a crx in 3 or so years. But the Geo came along after a night of drinking everclear and vodka and i just could not turn down a free first car. It is one of the easiest cars to work on and by far the cheapest platform to campaign
The Geo will also be a great first car for Mike to drive. It teaches you to keep your foot to the floor at all times, witch is going to be a lot of fun once we move to another car with more power. But for the next few years i will be more then content to co-drive for the Geo, Timm's Carola, and if he ever needs me again Phil's Rabbit.
Along the lines of the Miata, you're correct, I'm not very familiar with the Swift following, because it's never been an interest. When we considered building a rally car, we considered a rabbit because of familiarity, the only reason as matter of fact. Rallying, definately is a different animal. The learning curve is extremely steep for the driver/co-drivers compared to probably any other 4 wheel racing. You definately have to start small and move up.
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LOL, on the road courses I hear how fast Miata's are too. Only one thing to say to that group... just point left and stay right. Sure a carbon body Miata is fast in the corners, but for the REST of the Miatas out there, they're not a carbon body car, and they're not fast. I could understand if it were just to be a logging road beater. (My first car was a diesel rabbit, and believe me, it destroyed the logging roads in Wenatchee!) I'd also bet money that the Turbo Swift chassis are not the same as the Metro, so you'd be essentially needing two cars to make a complete swap just to get near the power levels of, as you said, a VW, or a CRX has from the factory. It just seems that it's a vehicle not meant in any way for that (rallying) use. Getting a cheap car and going for it is cool, don't get me wrong, but getting the wrong car on the cheap always ends up being a nightmare and awalys ends being a much more expensive route.
Along the lines of the Miata, you're correct, I'm not very familiar with the Swift following, because it's never been an interest. When we considered building a rally car, we considered a rabbit because of familiarity, the only reason as matter of fact. Rallying, definately is a different animal. The learning curve is extremely steep for the driver/co-drivers compared to probably any other 4 wheel racing. You definately have to start small and move up.
Along the lines of the Miata, you're correct, I'm not very familiar with the Swift following, because it's never been an interest. When we considered building a rally car, we considered a rabbit because of familiarity, the only reason as matter of fact. Rallying, definately is a different animal. The learning curve is extremely steep for the driver/co-drivers compared to probably any other 4 wheel racing. You definately have to start small and move up.
On the GTI I had a buddy that bought an old one off a guy about 5yrs ago. Believe it was an 85 or 86 he picked up for about $500. Gutted it and fabbed a cage at work and threw in a 16v motor out of one of the late 80's GTI. That car was actually quite fast and we would rally that thing on the back roads and have some good videos of hang time in that little thing. Fun car, I should see if he still has it.
Jason you keep letting me down in life.... First your in car shows, then your stumbling over basic WRC knowledge, and now this statement.... What am i going to do with you.
There is a ton of aftermarket support out there, you just have to know where to look. The Swift is still super popular to rally in Australia so you can get alot of parts from those guys. The car right now is using koni's or celica swift springs. If i ever get to the point where i feel i want to upgrade from there i will go with the 40mm bilstein's that they make for the geo/swift.
The original plan was to buy a VW or a crx in 3 or so years. But the Geo came along after a night of drinking everclear and vodka and i just could not turn down a free first car. It is one of the easiest cars to work on and by far the cheapest platform to campaign
The Geo will also be a great first car for Mike to drive. It teaches you to keep your foot to the floor at all times, witch is going to be a lot of fun once we move to another car with more power. But for the next few years i will be more then content to co-drive for the Geo, Timm's Carola, and if he ever needs me again Phil's Rabbit.
There is a ton of aftermarket support out there, you just have to know where to look. The Swift is still super popular to rally in Australia so you can get alot of parts from those guys. The car right now is using koni's or celica swift springs. If i ever get to the point where i feel i want to upgrade from there i will go with the 40mm bilstein's that they make for the geo/swift.
The original plan was to buy a VW or a crx in 3 or so years. But the Geo came along after a night of drinking everclear and vodka and i just could not turn down a free first car. It is one of the easiest cars to work on and by far the cheapest platform to campaign
The Geo will also be a great first car for Mike to drive. It teaches you to keep your foot to the floor at all times, witch is going to be a lot of fun once we move to another car with more power. But for the next few years i will be more then content to co-drive for the Geo, Timm's Carola, and if he ever needs me again Phil's Rabbit.
I think its good you start off with a car lower down the line and move on up from there. If you decide you really want to sink more money in then so be it...seen too many guys at home go and drop $100-200k or more into Starlets/Peugeot's etc. only to get out of the game once they get bored with it (and at a loss).
So my POV rock on and lets see how it plays out I guess.
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codgi do you know anyone who races a swift/geo? I am having a tough time finding a pad that does not suck. All i have been able to find so far is EBC green stuff pads, and they are less then impressive.
btw i have swift brakes up front, but still have stock geo drums in the rear.
btw i have swift brakes up front, but still have stock geo drums in the rear.
http://suzukird1.netfirms.com/62pro/...products_id=66
You dont want drilled rotors though. Drilled = teh sux
btw i dont know what year your things are from, these might not work
You dont want drilled rotors though. Drilled = teh sux
btw i dont know what year your things are from, these might not work
codgi do you know anyone who races a swift/geo? I am having a tough time finding a pad that does not suck. All i have been able to find so far is EBC green stuff pads, and they are less then impressive.
btw i have swift brakes up front, but still have stock geo drums in the rear.
btw i have swift brakes up front, but still have stock geo drums in the rear.
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Finally got around to doing a compression test this morning. I have to say it was a bit better then i expected it to be. 80 75 62.
There was grass and dirt half way down the threads on the plugs. Me are not sure what we will be doing to the car this weekend. Ether the outside will get painted or the motor will come out, and go to Gray Grahn to work his magic.
There was grass and dirt half way down the threads on the plugs. Me are not sure what we will be doing to the car this weekend. Ether the outside will get painted or the motor will come out, and go to Gray Grahn to work his magic.









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