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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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Question clutch headache... *sigh*

this might turn into quite a read... lol

recently installed a new clutch on my 06 evo MR. the install itself was a big pain in the *** but got everything in.

ive been driving on it for a week and a half with no issues (378 miles) and ive babied it the entire time. Drove it this morning to work with no issues as well. I decided to go out to lunch today so i put the car in reverse...gas it a little and notice a whirring sound(clutch engaging). I clutch in to disengage the clutch and i put in in 1st to drive forward. Saame noise that was fairly audible from the interior.

Stop the car, pop the hood and there is a slight smell of clutch (kind sour) almost like a blend of an electrical burn and burnt clutch.

a fellow co-worker was outside wondering what the hell i was doing and gave the car a listen. put it in reverse no noise. put it back in first and no noise. IM puzzled and the smell has almost disappeared. so parked it and turned it off.

i decided i better bring the car into the dealer and have it looked at. tech walked out with me and he drove the car in. He was able to reproduce the noise 3 times..... and again the smell was very faint, but almost goes away. put it on a lift...took out the inspection plug and no grenaded clutch or fibers hanging off anything, looked brand new still. *although you can only see so much*

a few techs decide to run it through the gears(on lift) to reproduce the sound and smell. Nothing. 2 techs take it around the block to try... they said car drove fine and no noise.

thats where im at currently....definately still has a faint smell when u stick ur head in there. i have no idea what would cause a noise like that rubbing/whirring noise from backing out at 1300 rpms or so.... especially when ive gone almost 400 miles with absolutely no problems.

insight or ideas??? something to maybe no stress me out so much! hahaha i just spent 2 weeks doing this damn clutch.

its an exedy stage 1 with resurfaced OEM flywheel.

Sean

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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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hey thats the same set up i have.

it might be just a part of the breaking in process of the brand new clutch.

i didnt do my clutch install though. i paid a shop to do it.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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give it a few more miles its probably the break in. my act clutch had a loud noise when cold during the break in phase. this might be something that your clutch is doing for the break in
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by josel_atr
hey thats the same set up i have.

it might be just a part of the breaking in process of the brand new clutch.

i didnt do my clutch install though. i paid a shop to do it.
hmmm i not too sure. although the past day the clutch engagment was getting better/smoother. i figured its just breaking in...but today just seems a bit.. odd.

that and nobody here at work (honda) has an idea of whats wrong or what happened.....

anyone else??
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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Does it do it when the clutch is fully engaged or just when you are slipping it to start from a stop?
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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Does it do it when the clutch is fully engaged or just when you are slipping it to start from a stop?

the noise only happened when the clutch was engaging. fully engaged there isnt any weird noise.

i JSUT drove it home.... everything turned off inside the car and no noise when getting the car to move. theres still a very faint smell coming from the engine/tranny but i assume its from earlier ( u really gotta stick ur noise in there and take a big whiff in order to smell it).

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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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My opinion is also to give it some more miles to break in. My Camaro also does a similar problem, only in reverse. I think it's just because I slip the clutch more in reverse so I rarely engage it fully when backing up.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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thanks for the opinions... ill definately continue to take it easy for the next few hundred miles and ill keep a close eye/ear/nose on it.

it would just help to know WHAT the hell that intermitten whirring/rubbing noise was(closure is always nice). something definately burned off/rubbed..but hardly under load. i mean ****, how can someone burn up a clutch from 1300rpms and within 5-10 feet. ahaha!

again, THANKS! more opinions/comments/thoughts welcomed.

Sean
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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^personally I'd call the ER guys to see what they said. I don't know clutches very well myself but I'd worry it was something to do with the flywheel after seeing the aftermath those can cause.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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blah! i dont wanna be a bother just with a question.... that and i dont get very much time to take care of personal business during the day. doesnt help that i work til 6pm.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Who resurfaced your flywheel may I ask?
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RoninVIIIRS
Who resurfaced your flywheel may I ask?
TTP....... who i ordered from off this site. i didnt want down time, but apparently that didnt work out during the install haha!
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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TTP....... who i ordered from off this site. i didnt want down time, but apparently that didnt work out during the install haha!
Hmmm.......I've seen flywheels be the culprit when the surface isn't good. I've also seen clutches that were not balanced/wrong bolts from the factory but that usually makes a huge vibration during engagement. And since you have an Exedy, I doubt that's the problem. Hard to say.........drive it, take it easy, and if it comes to worse, you just have to do it again. But look on the bright side, you will be a freaking pro by the time you have to do it over and over again.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Hmmm.......I've seen flywheels be the culprit when the surface isn't good. I've also seen clutches that were not balanced/wrong bolts from the factory but that usually makes a huge vibration during engagement. And since you have an Exedy, I doubt that's the problem. Hard to say.........drive it, take it easy, and if it comes to worse, you just have to do it again. But look on the bright side, you will be a freaking pro by the time you have to do it over and over again.

yeah i'm not sure, kind of a freak situation at the moment. especially it being so random/intermitten.

however...post clutch install, the engagement had been a lil rough with a slight vibration in the pedal (right from the very first start frm garage). It did begin to smooth out, over the past 2 days prior to this happening. i figured it was the clutch disc material

couple people think that some of the old clutch residue in the trans housing might have fallen off (we didnt clean it all out) or moisture got in there. lol i dont really think its likely.... but who knows!

thanks for the input!
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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And since you have an Exedy, I doubt that's the problem. Hard to say.........drive it, take it easy, and if it comes to worse, you just have to do it again. But look on the bright side, you will be a freaking pro by the time you have to do it over and over again.
Actually no. He has an EXEDY Stage 1 which is the worst possible clutch for the car. It is worse than stock. They burn up fast and anyone who ever tells us they are ordering or installing one we warn them about the Stg 1 unit.

The clutch costs $280+ shipping on ebay and you get what you pay for. I unfortunately learned how crappy they were on one of my Evo's going back to stock as it would burn up in regular driving and smoke smell would linger for days.

You would have been better off with a oem unit from the dealer.
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