CottageLifer

Great info! BTW, over half of all commuting trips in the US are ten miles or less (one way). That is 65 million people. Just sayin'... I know we are certainly looking at a hybrid (likely the Tesla Model 3) once PM Nice Hair Trudeau starts to deliver on his promise to curb greenhouse gases by subsidizing electric/hybrid vehicles.

AWCAWD

The more I read about the technology the more I am convinced that the PHEVtechnology is not for us in the north. Apparently it cannot be used in EV mode below -5 C (Li-ion battery is practically dead at or below this temperature). The pre-heater is apparently an optional extra. My other concern is that when the gasoline engine kicks in to charge the battery upon forceful acceleration it runs from the get go at high rpm. It is not how one should run a gasoline engine immediately after cold start.
This might be a great car for our friends in states near the Mexican border or the golf of Mexico.
I agree that incentives must be increased. Currently, if you want to finance a hybrid vehicle the interest rate is higher than for the ordinary gasoline counterpart from the same manufacturer. Before buying my RVR three and a half years ago I was checking out Toyota hybrids and they were giving them away for 4.9% apr, while the base Camry was offered for 1.9% apr.

Update
The PHEV user's manual says: performance will be significantly impaired at -15 C (~5F) and the car is effectively unusable at -30 C (-22F). Fellow members in Canada, Minnesota, and Dakotas, we can forget about this vehicle.
http://www.myoutlanderphev.com/forum...t=889&start=40

mRVRsport

I'm all for a little give and take when it comes to new technologies..
But, when you a basic transportation vehicle go completely inert when it gets too cold outside... that's just unacceptable.

AWCAWD

BMW i3 and Tesla model S are at the bottom of the reliability list of EVs. You do not even need winter for this.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...n-reliability/

As far as winter driving is concerned, Tesla blames the Norwegian electricity network for the cold weather troubles:
http://www.newsinenglish.no/2014/01/...electric-cars/
One car even burned to the ground while being charged in cold weather:
http://artofgears.com/2016/01/01/tes...-supercharger/

EVs and plug-in hybrids are just not for cold weather climates (yet?). At least the smart money should not go to purchase and run these vehicles in frigid weathers.

mRVRsport

Good to know!
Guess no Tesla X for us

CottageLifer

Road and Track? LMAO. BTW, I see Tesla S cars all winter long n the Rockies of Western Canada. There is a supercharging network in place and expanding. And I would take Li or Ni any day.

AWCAWD

I understand. BTW, the source is Consumer Reports based on owners satisfaction survey.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cars/...h-performance/
I see a lot of Fiat 500Ls, Jeep Cherokees, and Chrysler 200s here in Montreal. They are also at the bottom of the reliability ranking. I do not think seeing them equals reliability. In my order of values reliability is second after safety. Others may differ and I can understand that as well. After paying over or near a 100 grand I would not be happy if I get stranded. I am more forgiving if the price is 1/4 of that. This why I do not get either why Range Rovers are so popular here.

Lancer Bass

Range Rovers are status symbols. They hardly have their old off-roading pedigree. (Maybe the LR4, but I mostly see Evoque's on the road)

BTw, I hope they can fix that problem with cold weather. If they build their "PHEVO" I hope it can survive winter.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/428429/m...oming-clearer/