Current list of E85 stations in WA
Apr 21, 2009, 02:04 PM
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More bad news for Vancouver... the SAME station that suddenly ran out of E85 from a few posts back has suddenly CLOSED for "remodeling". they direct you to their Battle Ground location which is 20 CENTS more a gallon at $2.18.
I'm now convinced that the guy that owns ARBOR stations in Vancouver is a bait and switch pinch artist scammer. I'm driving into Portland from now on. No more business for Arbor.
Scott
I'm now convinced that the guy that owns ARBOR stations in Vancouver is a bait and switch pinch artist scammer. I'm driving into Portland from now on. No more business for Arbor.
Scott
Jun 3, 2009, 02:28 PM
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Jun 3, 2009, 04:54 PM
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Update on Arbor in Vancouver... now their second station is out of E85.
Spoke with one of the distributor/drivers a couple weeks ago and it seems that Arbor isn't closed for remodeling at all... THEY DON'T PAY THEIR BILLS!!! Or apparently their help either, which is why they aren't getting any fuel and why all their employees walked.
The story is that Arbor is driving to Longview and buying E85 one barrel at a time, bringing it back and pouring it into their pump tanks. Which is why, every 4th customer, they are out of it again.
I stopped by late last week just to see what was happening over there and they had "out of order" signs on every pump except diesel. Yes, That includes 87, 89 and 92!!!
These guys are BAD NEWS and not long for this world.
On another note, rumor has it that there is a new station further south toward vancouver/camas that is carrying E85 now. Anyone have the name or location?
Scott
Spoke with one of the distributor/drivers a couple weeks ago and it seems that Arbor isn't closed for remodeling at all... THEY DON'T PAY THEIR BILLS!!! Or apparently their help either, which is why they aren't getting any fuel and why all their employees walked.
The story is that Arbor is driving to Longview and buying E85 one barrel at a time, bringing it back and pouring it into their pump tanks. Which is why, every 4th customer, they are out of it again.
I stopped by late last week just to see what was happening over there and they had "out of order" signs on every pump except diesel. Yes, That includes 87, 89 and 92!!!
These guys are BAD NEWS and not long for this world.
On another note, rumor has it that there is a new station further south toward vancouver/camas that is carrying E85 now. Anyone have the name or location?
Scott
Jul 20, 2009, 04:50 AM
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I never used E-85. but is it safe to fill it without tune ? how does it effect injectors ?
kinda suspicios on this...
help to resolve my mind on this one..
kinda suspicios on this...
help to resolve my mind on this one..
Jul 20, 2009, 09:51 AM
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[QUOTE=amsevoixmrse;7298945]I never used E-85. but is it safe to fill it without tune ?[/QUOTE}]
No, #85 is less effiecient than Gasoline and needs an entirely different fuel curve. Your mixes will be WAY off if you just run E85 with a stick tune and you will hurt the motor.
how does it effect injectors ? Stock, it will burn them up. Properly tuned, it will run fine and with reportedly little or no damage to them. Guys have been running on E85 for 10s of thousands of miles with zero issues. I've been on for around 12K miles with zero issues.
YOU WILL ALSO NEED A BIGGER FUEL PUMP. 255LPH
As mentioned in both of the above responses, you WILL need bigger injectors but it's also about the power as well as the E85 tune.
Think about running 25 - 30 lbs of boost on pump gas... you WILL burn more fuel to do so and naturally you would replace the injectors and fuel pump and then get it tuned for the boost.
It's exactly the same with E85 because you CAN run that kind of boost.
It's pretty simple logic when you look at it that way.
Scott
No, #85 is less effiecient than Gasoline and needs an entirely different fuel curve. Your mixes will be WAY off if you just run E85 with a stick tune and you will hurt the motor.
how does it effect injectors ? Stock, it will burn them up. Properly tuned, it will run fine and with reportedly little or no damage to them. Guys have been running on E85 for 10s of thousands of miles with zero issues. I've been on for around 12K miles with zero issues.
YOU WILL ALSO NEED A BIGGER FUEL PUMP. 255LPH
As mentioned in both of the above responses, you WILL need bigger injectors but it's also about the power as well as the E85 tune.
Think about running 25 - 30 lbs of boost on pump gas... you WILL burn more fuel to do so and naturally you would replace the injectors and fuel pump and then get it tuned for the boost.
It's exactly the same with E85 because you CAN run that kind of boost.
It's pretty simple logic when you look at it that way.
Scott
Jul 21, 2009, 09:08 PM
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I'm sorry that I didn't tell you all what I have done to my car. It's NOT stock somewhat...
I have it tuned to 333WHP and 314TQ. Stock injectors, Walbro 255LPH, FMIC, all IC pipes, TBE 3', Boost at 26 lbs, stock turbo.
SO.. as I understand this correctly even thou I have all this stuff I should not use e-85 without tune for it and bigger injectors. What size injectors I should use ? my target power for this year 380Whp with 272 cams, and not sure what cams to get yet.
I have it tuned to 333WHP and 314TQ. Stock injectors, Walbro 255LPH, FMIC, all IC pipes, TBE 3', Boost at 26 lbs, stock turbo.
SO.. as I understand this correctly even thou I have all this stuff I should not use e-85 without tune for it and bigger injectors. What size injectors I should use ? my target power for this year 380Whp with 272 cams, and not sure what cams to get yet.
