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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 05:45 PM
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Chris,

Here's a pic of the renegade radiator setup. I finished it up today on the LS1 Swap 911. I cut more sheet metal out than they recommended because I didn't like the way theirs looked and I thought an unsupported hole in the latch panel would weaken the structure too much. I had a friend with PlasmaCAM cut the holes out of a piece of 18 Gauge and then welded the 18 gauge panel in all the way around.

The Renegade kit comes with that piece of angle iron that runs across the bottom. You weld that in and then you have a perfectly straight piece across the bottom to weld the new latch panel to.

You'll probably have a lower heat load than mine, and you're in a cooler climate, but I've been told you need to make sure and duct the air from the hole in front of your car to this. Evidently, air pressure can build up under the bumper and block the airflow into the trunk.

I also used the Renegade fuel tank. The Porsche dash is full of holes and if you don't, then you get hot air from the radiator blowing into the cockpit through all the holes.

I still have to paint this stuff. I'll do that next week hopefully.

Hal
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 07:37 AM
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Dude,

The motor mount rocks. Is there any rubber in it? I can't tell from the picture.


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Yes has the factory one still in the corners. I paid $100.00 for the mount, It is a panhard bar NASCAR sprint cup cars hold 55,000 pounds of pressure so im sure it could hold up a 300 pound motor lol, I do have to get a turbo deck lid for clearance. How long did it take to get your Renegade kit.
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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Yes has the factory one still in the corners. I paid $100.00 for the mount, It is a panhard bar NASCAR sprint cup cars hold 55,000 pounds of pressure so im sure it could hold up a 300 pound motor lol, I do have to get a turbo deck lid for clearance. How long did it take to get your Renegade kit.

It took about 6 weeks. How far above the sides of the car does the motor poke?

I'm sure it will hold but I'd check it after the first few runs. Pay close attention to the weld points. It isn't the 300 lbs of static weight on the bar that matters. It's the 450 horsepower being transmitted to the wheels by torquing against the 2500 lb body under dynamic loads that can stress a piece of metal to it's limits.

And remember, NASCAR racers get rebuilt every 400 miles...

But, like you said, I'm sure it will hold. I was asking about the rubber because I think a direct connection can be harsh - and, because it transmits much more of that vibration from the motor into the joints of the mount, it's more prone to failure.

I think you did it right.

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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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It took about 6 weeks. How far above the sides of the car does the motor poke?

I'm sure it will hold but I'd check it after the first few runs. Pay close attention to the weld points. It isn't the 300 lbs of static weight on the bar that matters. It's the 450 horsepower being transmitted to the wheels by torquing against the 2500 lb body under dynamic loads that can stress a piece of metal to it's limits.

And remember, NASCAR racers get rebuilt every 400 miles...

But, like you said, I'm sure it will hold. I was asking about the rubber because I think a direct connection can be harsh - and, because it transmits much more of that vibration from the motor into the joints of the mount, it's more prone to failure.

I think you did it right.

H
I'm also going to put another bar on the side under the intake manifold about 8 inches I will weld a bracket to the frame rail then one will bolt to the block. that should cover the twist.

I just blew a fitting out of my coolant intake on my 2002 996tt yesterday sucks whole motor has to come out.
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 04:13 PM
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I'm also going to put another bar on the side under the intake manifold about 8 inches I will weld a bracket to the frame rail then one will bolt to the block. that should cover the twist.

I just blew a fitting out of my coolant intake on my 2002 996tt yesterday sucks whole motor has to come out.

Yeah. There you go. And the Mitsu motor prolly already has a bracket, right?

Too bad about the TT. Should be more reliable than that. How many miles have you got on it?

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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 04:27 AM
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Here is the problem, going to take the coolant pipe off along with water pump ant power steering pump. Shipping those parts out and having the fittings welded on, not going to glue it to have same problem again. This was located behind the alt.
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 05:18 AM
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I have 142,000 on her, I do have a bracket that bolts to the block, don't know where I got it but it works lol.



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Yeah. There you go. And the Mitsu motor prolly already has a bracket, right?

Too bad about the TT. Should be more reliable than that. How many miles have you got on it?

H
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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Renegade cooling system on it's way Merry Christmas to me lol
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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Well my package came and started the install of the radiator kit. not really impressed with renegade no instructions at all, just on filling and burping the system. they had the v tray to long and messed me up till I figured it out. I will post pics later.
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 03:10 PM
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cool thread.
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 01:43 PM
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not really impressed with renegade no instructions at all, just on filling and burping the system..
That was my experience as well. If you call, they have lots of info and will email you photos, but the directions they send are a joke. I started my project three years ago (wow, I can't believe it has been that long), back then you got a single web page with about 8 photos for the whole conversion! It doesn't sound like they have improved that at all.

Good luck with your built and keep the photos coming!

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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 06:17 AM
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Well the gas tank is also getting fab up Sould be done by the end of the year. Going to try and get pics this weekend.
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 06:21 AM
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Still waiting for the radiator to be installed. UGH
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 07:47 AM
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This looks awesome, can not wait to see more pics of this, great job
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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You don't live to far from me i'm 2 miles into Maryland from the York and Lancaster County Line.


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This looks awesome, can not wait to see more pics of this, great job
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