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It's been a while since I've logged in but with COVID, I've had more time on my hands to do things. I realized that I've never made a build thread over the years, I think I relied more on social media, such as FB and IG, but I'm getting burnt out with the those toxic pages. Crazy everyone says the forums have died down, but I see so many active threads. I've had much more engaging convos on car forums than car fb pages anyways. Nevertheless enough rambling on to the car I guess.
Posting a few shots with the CWEST front end. Sorry in advanced I do not have any cool high res photos yet. Going to be changing a few things over the next few months, which I will use this thread to document.
Well the car is undergoing a motor build now, COVID boredom really makes you spend some money lol. I will post progress pictures as I get them. I also found a deal on some wheels so I can have the CE28s for track and the new Works for street use.
It's good to see an SST build, they seem pretty rare. Aside from the dodson sump, was there anything else you had to do cooling wise to keep the SST alive at that power level?
It's good to see an SST build, they seem pretty rare. Aside from the dodson sump, was there anything else you had to do cooling wise to keep the SST alive at that power level?
Build sheet shows an SSP 10 plate clutch. The stock clutches wouldn't hold shifts at his power level.
No trans cooler isn’t needed for my setup and I’m never in conditions that warrant the trans over heating. Even on track I haven’t had any over heat or slow down messages.
It's good to see an SST build, they seem pretty rare. Aside from the dodson sump, was there anything else you had to do cooling wise to keep the SST alive at that power level?
Dodson heated sump is to heat up the SST fluid more quickly so that it can be at operating temp. I believe it uses engine coolant to accomplish the heating.
Dodson heated sump is to heat up the SST fluid more quickly so that it can be at operating temp. I believe it uses engine coolant to accomplish the heating.
Its my understanding that it does both. It helps the trans get up to temp, and then helps keep it from overheating. This is accomplished by tapping in to the engine coolant system. I didn't have a reference for how much cooling capacity the addition of the Dodson sump added, thus my question to OP. Normally it takes additional oil coolers and capacity to keep even stock power levels from overheating the sst under track conditions. If the addition of just the Dodson pan accomplishes thermal control at these power levels than that is pretty impressive IMO.
Dodson heated sump is to heat up the SST fluid more quickly so that it can be at operating temp. I believe it uses engine coolant to accomplish the heating.
But then it also uses the coolant to cool the fluid. Just like any normal auto trans car with a heat exchanger in the radiator.
I think the excessive heat that typically overheats the stock sst is mostly caused by the stock clutches slipping.
Could be. Do you know of any examples of people installing clutches at stock power levels and that curing the overheating issue? Perhaps a tuning remedy with additional line pressure?
Could be. Do you know of any examples of people installing clutches at stock power levels and that curing the overheating issue? Perhaps a tuning remedy with additional line pressure?
You're underestimating the effectiveness of the oil-water heat exchanger. Any fluid-fluid heat exchanger is way more effect than fluid/air-air. The Dodson works extremely well. I could never get my ex's MR over 225*, even flogging it on mountain back roads for 30+ minutes at a time.
Originally Posted by evo420
I think the excessive heat that typically overheats the stock sst is mostly caused by the stock clutches slipping.
The stock trans slips the clutches at low temp to get it up to temp faster. That's the issue. And it's causes wear.
If you're pushing the limit of the stock clutches (over 400whp) this could be an issue. Other wise it's simply a lack of cooling, and the above mentioned slipping at low temps can cause issues with hot spots on the clutches/plates that lead to slipping if you don't drive the car easy while the trans is cold.
