FP Black on Stock Evo 8?
#17
Evolving Member
#18
EvoM Community Team Leader
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Here are things that hurt response, in relation to what you have posted:
Full Race mani
Big Cams
Big turbo
slower spool, but better top end.
Stock short block
6 spd trans (if you had one)
Either will limit you on torque. So, while you may have 600whp, you will only be around 350ftlbs. That makes a car feel even worse. not only that, but it's gonna take a while to get to that 350ftlbs with a big turbo. All the lag, none of the torque LOL.
Here is a dyno chart of my old HTA 71 (blue) vs the Green I have now (red), since you mention looking for a green. This was before tuning, but shows spool characteristics of the two, as well as the decreased boost needed to make the same power. Your IX turbo will spool even faster, but make less peak WHP. I preach the HTA71 being the best street turbo for our 2.0L, any chance I get LOL
Here is my conservative track tune. This is on the MHI housing, I'm told SS spools slower but makes more peak power; similar to an MHI red, as others have stated in this thread. There's more in it, but I'm not looking to tow the car home LOL
#21
Evolving Member
Responsiveness and top end are opposite. So you gotta decide how much of one you are willing to give up for the other.
Here are things that hurt response, in relation to what you have posted:
Full Race mani
Big Cams
Big turbo
slower spool, but better top end.
Stock short block
6 spd trans (if you had one)
Either will limit you on torque. So, while you may have 600whp, you will only be around 350ftlbs. That makes a car feel even worse. not only that, but it's gonna take a while to get to that 350ftlbs with a big turbo. All the lag, none of the torque LOL.
Here is a dyno chart of my old HTA 71 (blue) vs the Green I have now (red), since you mention looking for a green. This was before tuning, but shows spool characteristics of the two, as well as the decreased boost needed to make the same power. Your IX turbo will spool even faster, but make less peak WHP. I preach the HTA71 being the best street turbo for our 2.0L, any chance I get LOL
Here is my conservative track tune. This is on the MHI housing, I'm told SS spools slower but makes more peak power; similar to an MHI red, as others have stated in this thread. There's more in it, but I'm not looking to tow the car home LOL
Here are things that hurt response, in relation to what you have posted:
Full Race mani
Big Cams
Big turbo
slower spool, but better top end.
Stock short block
6 spd trans (if you had one)
Either will limit you on torque. So, while you may have 600whp, you will only be around 350ftlbs. That makes a car feel even worse. not only that, but it's gonna take a while to get to that 350ftlbs with a big turbo. All the lag, none of the torque LOL.
Here is a dyno chart of my old HTA 71 (blue) vs the Green I have now (red), since you mention looking for a green. This was before tuning, but shows spool characteristics of the two, as well as the decreased boost needed to make the same power. Your IX turbo will spool even faster, but make less peak WHP. I preach the HTA71 being the best street turbo for our 2.0L, any chance I get LOL
Here is my conservative track tune. This is on the MHI housing, I'm told SS spools slower but makes more peak power; similar to an MHI red, as others have stated in this thread. There's more in it, but I'm not looking to tow the car home LOL
#23
EvoM Guru
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1000cc injectors are fine for the stock turbo, with cams, on E85. I made 420whp, IDC was a safe 90%.
Now, if the OP wants a responsive turbo, a Red is the biggest you should go with an MHI twin scroll, or the green in single scroll. Can also look at the Blouch 2.0xtr.
Now, if the OP wants a responsive turbo, a Red is the biggest you should go with an MHI twin scroll, or the green in single scroll. Can also look at the Blouch 2.0xtr.
#26
Evolving Member
#27
Evolving Member
I'm real curious to see some 2.0 results on a 2 liter. I like the Blouch offerings because they still use MHI housings and the bb units seem very robust. Garrett dual bb center sections. I'm not sure if I'd go 2.0 or straight to the 3.0. Likely the former. Sorry if off topic. The OP could certainly consider a 2.0XTR turbo for a stock block vs a Black I think.
#28
EvoM Guru
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Originally Posted by 4b11slayer
My log at 28 psi.
493 hp 396 torque
493 hp 396 torque
#29
Evolved Member
yes single. I wouldnt spend on a twin red. Because if i buy new turbo hopefully it will be a 6466 or something. The lag sux but it still pulls hard. Although it is true my evo 9 turbo felt more torque.
#30
Evolving Member
That is a far-to-the-right power band for sure. I wonder what it would look like if it were started at say 2k-2500k rpm?
Letsgetthisdone, that looks like a nice MD graph on the bottom! Peak torque looks to be in the same area as my smaller turbo! Must be fun around town.
Letsgetthisdone, that looks like a nice MD graph on the bottom! Peak torque looks to be in the same area as my smaller turbo! Must be fun around town.