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Originally Posted by Dave@Accolade
yeah but you must understand the nature of Kareem's posts it wasnt against Accolade, it was just against me the person.. and as you know I have been very good to people on the boards and came much later then your 2003 experience.. you were way to quick to judge but I understand where you are coming from.. so lets just all move on as I am sure OZLancerlunitic well make a fine moderator..
Dave you have to understand I didn't partake in the bashing of you. What you and kareem say/do is your business. I merely stated my opinions on my personal experiences with Accolade from a first hand account.
Like I said in my other post about Accolade, its never to late to fix a problem like this.
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Dave you have to understand I didn't partake in the bashing of you. What you and kareem say/do is your business. I merely stated my opinions on my personal experiences with Accolade from a first hand account.
Like I said in my other post about Accolade, its never to late to fix a problem like this.
Like I said in my other post about Accolade, its never to late to fix a problem like this.
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But Dave, I failed to understand how you can drop the people that had problems and move on. You should have realized before making "Accolade-USA" that there were pending problems. Thus, if you are the US distributor that means you deal to Jive, where I got my kit. Thus making you also responsible. I remember you were there back in the day as Strada-USA going against me, they actually banned you(that name) off the forum.
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I had no choice in the matter but to back Kareems accusations against Accolade due to the fact that I did the research too and found out the same thing over a year ago. It did not suprise me that this company did not change.
At the time Jive recieved his goods direct from asia, I was Strada USA who contracted with Accolade for Nissan Parts, I had no relationship as a freight forwarder for lancer parts, infact for the longest time I refused to be a dealer. They banned my account because I supported Jive and Accolade and it got ugly, but it was no surprise we all came back after I established Accolade as a U.S. entity.. and with me as head of operations and my experience as well as customer service we rose to the top of the lancer kit market. We are designing magazine advertisements and we are also in an upcoming video game for the XBox, I am really sorry that things went bad with a Dealer of Accolade ~ Jive Motorsports, and I really dont know all the details, but I know Josh is very sorry as he has expressed this already. Why not contact all the old parties and see what can be done, everyone benefits from me being here and alot of people have enjoyed my presence as the U.S. rep, its not really fair for people such as yourself to hang everything on me, I am left scratching my head because the Accolade I understand to be is not how you describe.
Originally Posted by OZLancerlunitic
But Dave, I failed to understand how you can drop the people that had problems and move on. You should have realized before making "Accolade-USA" that there were pending problems. Thus, if you are the US distributor that means you deal to Jive, where I got my kit. Thus making you also responsible. I remember you were there back in the day as Strada-USA going against me, they actually banned you(that name) off the forum.
On another note, I would like to know some truth to this story.
Ok let me see if I understand this correctly, Dave became a distributor for accolade after you purchased your kit? While you purchased it? Or did you purchase it through dave? Im trying to figure out when he actually became a distributor for them.
If it was after the fact, then NO I dont see why he should fix a problem that he didn't have anything to do with. He started a business as being a distributor for their company, but that shouldn't mean he should fix their screw up. If this is the case then you need to deal directly with AccoladeAsia or where ever they are located. When you become a distributor for a company that doesn't mean you have to fix existing problems or orders. As a business owner your entitled to resolve any issue with YOUR customers and clients that deal with purchases through you, and not the company directly. You cant expect dave to take money out of his own pocket for a order that wasn't even placed through him.
If in fact you went directly through dave whether it be his first attempt at this business under another name or not. Than YES personally I think dave needs to make good on this deal and send you your side skirts and hood. I think you would also need to be refunded a portion of the money due to it being a inconvenience and unproffesional business deal. Dave if this is the case you need to make right on this, cause to me that would look shady, business license or not. That would speak for your reputation and I hope your not looking to ruin it.
If you do not wish to discuss this openly you can PM me.
Edit: Dave posted while I was typeing, sorry I think I understand completely now.
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Originally Posted by Dave@Accolade
I am really sorry that things went bad with a Dealer of Accolade ~ Jive Motorsports, and I really dont know all the details, but I know Josh is very sorry as he has expressed this already. Why not contact all the old parties and see what can be done, everyone benefits from me being here and alot of people have enjoyed my presence as the U.S. rep, its not really fair for people such as yourself to hang everything on me, I am left scratching my head because the Accolade I understand to be is not how you describe.
With someone who firmly believes in "customer service" and has excellent "business relations" do you believe a sorry is acceptable for what happened? I sure hope not.
Contacting the old parties is useless, been there done that. Josh is a deadbeat and always will be. I cannot change that.
Accolade is a deadbeat company and always will be. I have tried my contacts and failed. If you want me to stop going against accolade and being anti-accolade then step in and do something about it. Till then, it is this way.
Once again, if you want to further this convo IM me or PM me, this thread isnt about accolade or its dsitributors.
EVOONYOASS it is how you said, it came way before my involvement with lancer parts and he had no direct dealings with me, infact I dont know all the details.. But I will see what I can do for him.. Ozlancerlunitic is right Josh wont do anything and neither will the asian staff, So I must take up the burden of their faults, it hasnt been the first time.
Originally Posted by Dave@Accolade
EVOONYOASS it is how you said, it came way before my involvement with lancer parts and he had no direct dealings with me, infact I dont know all the details.. But I will see what I can do for him.. Ozlancerlunitic is right Josh wont do anything and neither will the asian staff, So I must take up the burden of their faults, it hasnt been the first time.
Dave, I would seriously contact the other offices outside the U.S. and demand they repay you for their bad business deal.
It seems as though dave is makeing a good attempt to make this right so be a little easy on the guy.
OZ, I hope your old purchase order gets resolved and everything works out for you. As far as being a moderator, I think you need to step away from things and look at them from the outside or from a different angle. Sometimes you can see a whole different picture than the one that was painted. I think accuseing him of not being a legitimate business was wrong, without proof. The way you guys went about it was also in the wrong manner. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by EVOONYOASS
Although I don't think you are responsible for an order not placed through you, it really shows alot of charactor that you are stepping up and resolveing this issue. You would not expect someone to do something as such so this would be considered GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE to me. Considering your takeing care of a business deal you were never involved in nor took payment for whether it be 6mo or a year later. Mad props.
Dave, I would seriously contact the other offices outside the U.S. and demand they repay you for their bad business deal.
It seems as though dave is makeing a good attempt to make this right so be a little easy on the guy.
OZ, I hope your old purchase order gets resolved and everything works out for you. As far as being a moderator, I think you need to step away from things and look at them from the outside or from a different angle. Sometimes you can see a whole different picture than the one that was painted. I think accuseing him of not being a legitimate business was wrong, without proof. The way you guys went about it was also in the wrong manner. Good luck.
Dave, I would seriously contact the other offices outside the U.S. and demand they repay you for their bad business deal.
It seems as though dave is makeing a good attempt to make this right so be a little easy on the guy.
OZ, I hope your old purchase order gets resolved and everything works out for you. As far as being a moderator, I think you need to step away from things and look at them from the outside or from a different angle. Sometimes you can see a whole different picture than the one that was painted. I think accuseing him of not being a legitimate business was wrong, without proof. The way you guys went about it was also in the wrong manner. Good luck.
To be fair he is willing to try and work something out so I am down to try SOMETHING.
I am a man of business also so he gets a chance at this.
As far as being a legit business, it isn't for me to decide.....I think the government works well without me so if its not legit then I am sure they can find out.
On a side note, if this gets resolved you wont see me hating accolade(not dave cause i already dont hate him, accolade)
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