although i have no idea who al is other then EVOTEXAS' dissatisfaction with him, i think the little i know about busted solutions is that they are dirty scum. in case you didn't know, they stole someones engine and used it in their car. hence the reason they are no longer in business. i think that moves them from the EVOM vendor status to the criminal status. which as a criminal they no longer deserve the respect a normal person deserves.

al has my blessing on making fun of BS, because in my opinion anyone who vandalizes another mans car, deserves quick and severe punishment.

 

At least we can reach agreement on one point !

I used to like and support George from BS until I had all the specfics on what really went down

The part that really pissed me off about BS was when I heard that most of the parts they were running in their race car on 9/11 when they came to the race at Englishtown were "borrowed" from customer's cars (including the engine)

From what I gather people lost whole cars and tens of thousands of dollars

My point is not to dwell on the criminal activty of BS, but rather to attempt to show an example of what someone "getting screwed" is

compared to some one who buys something and later decides he prefers another product

 

thanks for the update...that is scum..

 

I am an NTEC member and one of the main people EVOTEXAS used to compare tunes with (I had the same mods as him at the last dyno day with street tune by Al and he had a mail-in TT flash) get bored of this whole debate. I need a new tune because I know my tune is not the best for my car anymore and am going to get a TT flash.

I personally don't like Al anymore due to some things on the forums that he said/did, but I at least don't need to bash him. I will voice my opinion sometimes about how I would choose another vendor if I needed to do it again, but not in every thread.

 

freedom of speech is something that can't be taken away... you'll just get "put in time out" for using it here thats all.

And another thing...

as usual... you guys are great for twisting things to fit what you wanna say...

let me put this in a manner where it can't get twisted....

what i was trying to say was... yes there is freedom is speech, cody got in trouble for "saying what he wanted to say"....... i was stating... the best way for this to be resolved was for the two people who have the issue need to solve it..and everyone else needs to step back. its pretty obvious that it won't with everyone adding their .02... yes thats freedom of speech too but this is not helping to solve the matter in any way.

in the end im gonna say this..... one person was unhappy about another person service, things got a lil out of hand and cody may have used a wrong way to solve his problem.... OK ... he made a bad decision on the way his problem needed to be solved... he said some things he shouldn't have said... and got banned. only thing the NTEC guys are doing is sticking up for one of their own.. whats wrong with that?

and to the guy who says NTEC is gay or whatever choice of words you used... GROW UP.. personally i really don't care what you or anyone on this site thinks about me ..none of you put food on my table or pay any of my bills....

its a forum people thats it a FORUM... stop taking everything so damn serious.... let the two people involved solve the problem and it will probably work out...

now.. am i gonna get banned too??????????

 

No, I don't think so. I think you have to accused of being gay and not like Al's services to be banned.

 

Do a search on Boost Solutions (think the thread was titled 'need help with boost solutions'); they did a lot more than just steal someone's engine. they ripped a lot of people on this site off and the owner has disappeared with all the money and parts. George, the owner, ****ed over a lot of people on this site so I don't think Al's comments are out of place at all.

 

I think Al and Cody need to have a Halo death match. LockOut with ShotGuns should settle the matter.

NTEC vs EVOM moderators is also called for. Team death match on Zanzibar.

 

Reality check from the old man...

Regardless of my opinion of this situation there are a few things people are missing here

There is no right to free speech here... this is a privately owned domain.

You may only say "anything" here that Mark, or his appointees will allow you to say.

It doesn't matter what you young liberal folks think of this fact, it is quite simply the way it is!

There is a vendor here that I really don't like, I gave up making my opinion known on the matter as the OWNER of everything here was not in agreement with that opinion.

Dicked over or not, you play by the rules of the house... or you get out of the house.

Now my intent is not to anger, or "check" anyone. I'm quite simply pointing out the facts of the matter... you only have the "rights" you are allowed.

 

Zeus, what you have said amounts to the over weight trailer trash dad wearing his gravy stained wife beater yelling at his kid "If you don't like the way I run my ****ing house you can get the **** out!". While the sentiment is true it has 0 effect and changes nothing. Dad is still psised at the kid and the kid piessd at dad. Cody doesn't like Al and Al doesn't like Cody.

Who was wrong? I don't really care. I hope the two of them fix it though. In the mean time I'm going to enjoy the entertaining yarping by the sea lawyers who are all apparently expert in Constitutional law and its relevance on the internet.

 

CORRECTION - I do not dislike Evotexas. I don't dislike anyone. I am too busy trying to do a good job, run my business and take care of my responsibilities and returing phone calls and emails to waste my taime hating on anyone

The ONLY reason why I continue to even respond to these threads is to defend my reputation becuase if someone was reading Evotexas's remarks without hearing the other side of the story they may draw inaccurate conclusions about my product If you will notice, I am not on here making insults about Evotexas or calling him names, I am simply disussing the facts of my business transaction with him.

Of course, we have been through this already at least a dozen times, and I will continue to share my point of view in a respectful manner without insuting anyone.


Its a common theme that the person who has the "problem" is very pleased and posts great things about my product (as in the case of Evotexas) . . . . . and then suddenly they form the opinion that I am a "rip off" or what ever after they get a FREE flash from brand "Z".

It is up to the readers to draw their own conslusions.

Evotexas and his pals have posted gay charactures with my name on them; formed groups dedicated to "anti-DynoFlash" purposes; insulted me personally, called me rude and profane names and contacted dozens of individuals to attempt to convince them not to do business with me via PM

In my opinion, Evotexas has conducted himself in a most dishonrable manner. However, it is up to the reader to draw his / her own conclusions.

At some point, I would hope that the members and readers of these forums will begine to connect the dots and make a connection about what is really going on here

Frankly, I see this entire episode as simply an underhanded method of marketing a competeing product. Much like a negative political campaign. If Evotexas prefers some other tuner then so be it , there is no need to conduct a bashing attack on my company simply becuase he made 10 less whp than he had expected.

Of course, he is free to voice his opinions about me and my company is he so desires, however, I think the issue has been that he has chosen to use vulgar and profane remarks, scatalogical lanquage and insults over and over again.

I can only speak for myself and my actions, I refuse to trash any other vendors, I prefer to let my work speak for itself. Also, I will not provide free products to people on this forum who bash other vendors as some sort of incentive.

I have no hate for anyone and do not seek to call anyone names or insult them.

I just wanted to clarify the situation

 

Al...
Since you are grouping all members of the NTEC into one group and generalizing our reasons for not liking you.... I decieded to tell you exactly what situation has tuned me off to you and your business...

when you came to dallas for your last Dynoflash session at the now defunct EVO8.com....

I referred your service to a younger friend ...because his car was near stock and he couldnt afford a full blown ecu....
I decieded to follow him up there so i could meet some other local evolution owners in my area....and also to meet Al...since you had sort of an internet reputation of being a "good tuner"....and also to satisfy my inerest in different styles of ECU tuning...

To cut to the chase...you seemed like a cool enough guy until.......

1. You asked to check out my car and told me it was "trash" because I had a lightweight crank pulley....and that I had bought one of the worst ECUs (apexi power FC)...

2. You asked who did work on my car and who tuned it....and when i told you Brice from ALamo....you went into a rant about how you hoped he came up to the meet so you could tell him a thing or too about tuning...you said you didnt like him because he turned one of your customers on to a power FC....

3. I simply asked you how you liked your Motec wideband lambda meter....and if you would recomend it ...and you said to me... "Man these are way expensive for you ...and for serious tuners only..... you said this without knowing anything about my financial situation or my tuning experience....just wrote me off because i looked younger or something...

Now im sure that these events dont stick out in your mind....or you may not even remember them...but maybe thats why many people that have come in contact with you dont agree with your attitude... because your too busy "with your business" to take the time to be cordial.

 

caleb, alot of people are rude and don't know it. my wife tells me all the time to be nice and i don't even notice i'm being a dick. prolly the same way al is. oh yeah it was good to meet you sunday.

vincent

EDIT: oh and i don't respect al because he doesn't respect anyone else. i came to this conclusion long before meeting cody or jason or any other local evo owners. well i met importpepe b/c we both bought our cars from the same sales guy.

 

Wow....didnt know you were married man....cool....

Also i know people are rude... but in this game you have to realize that pride runs hi...it has to when we are this involved in our cars.

 

I would like to first say that I'm in agreement with several others, including you Al, that in some cases EVOTEXAS did not use the proper protocal in his dispute with you. But as an individual, I respect his right to voice his opinion in any way that he chooses. I also respect the right of this forum to police those entries that they perceive as inappropriate or offensive.

But, Al, I also believe that you've really crossed the line this time too. How can you in good conscience get on this thread and make statements about EVOTEXAS knowing full well he can't dispute anything that you say. Seems incredibly like shooting fish in a barrel. Did you pick on disabled kids in grade school also?

You state in one paragraph that you're not calling anyone names, when in fact the previous paragraph you call EVOTEXAS misdirected. Then you have the audacity to insinuate that he bashed your product solely for the purpose of getting something for free from someone else. Bullsh*t! I can absolutely assure you that EVOTEXAS is no way financial dire straights. He holds a very respectable and high paying, professional position with a MAJOR corporation. It's ludicrous for you to even suggest that he would stoop to that level. Shame on you.

Lastly, I will state unequivocally, EVOTEXAS does not wish for you to feel sorry for him. That you would even make that statement is a testament to your overinflated ego. Enough already!