I'm glad you passed your Poly Sci class. Yes I know the Republic for which it stands and all. If you think that government Federal and state governments have no role to play in the welfare of its citizens then I'll just leave you be. I'm done with this thread.

 

Ignorant, I rest my case as well.

 

Yeah, they sure did. Yep, it's GW's fault, always is easy to place blame isn't it. And do you know when they were due to start(or maybe it was finish, either way doesn't matter) construction on said levy? 2017. Would have just been a "tad" to late wouldn't it, well just by twelve years or so.

 

Thank God..............

 

Here's my original statement unchanged from so long ago of which you speak, " What difference does it make?.... How could you not know? Do you live in America or Neverneverland? That must be a pretty easy statement for a white boy to make. If there a more than 2 black people at the water cooler, do you have a problem with that too? Are they plotting something? Do they hate white people?" That's the whole of it, word for word, a response to your statement long ago. So, stop lying.

I would think two people could have a conversation or argue and disagree on something and still be civil and learn something. When, you lie or twist the truth you are uncivil, such as you are doing. Such as my example picture: Two people two different shots doing the same thing almost exactly with two different explanations. I still have those pm’s. Need to relook? I never once insulted you then. I thought our conservations were quite civil and though we came to an understanding. Here’s a line from one of your pm’s “Well Kam, I am impressed by your response! I thought you were going to slam me and I appreciate that you didn't.” That’s your words - word for word. I’ll post the whole thing if you like. I find your current responses uncivil, so, I'm slamming you now.

To anyone who misunderstands me, I’ll clarify. I do not defend any actions of immoral people looting or any other crime which may be going in New Orleans or else where. Put them in jail or shoot them, please. I am against bigots who put sick twists on the truth, make insulting or misleading comments, and act someone is wrong to retort.

 

Humm..... That bill of which you speak passed congress and was vetoed by GW to give more funds for the war in Iraq. I'm not saying its his fault, but bad decision?

 

Here are your recent uncivilized comments cut from your first post in case you forgot. See post#3. Looks like a hijack to me, again, of the original post. See post #1.

Heres a lesson in speech as it involves civilized behavior. Your statement them the blacks means all those black people which ties into the other statements like “animals” meaning all those black animals. Note: You did not say the people who committed the uncivil acts were black. You stated all those people in the dome were uncivil “animals” who are black. A blanket statement about all the people there who seem from your statements to all be black. A Misleading and Barbaric statement on many accounts, like your avatar.

 

Kam,
I too would think that two people could have a conversation or argue and disagree, still be civil and learn something. I thought that you and I had come to an understanding in our previous conversation, one being that I am/was not a racist but was just expressing my thoughts that I don't see what skin color has to do with what type of car we drive(Evo) and that bringing that up is bound to cause problems. But, obviously I am/was mistaken. I treated you with respect during that "conversation" and yet again, you come after me. You seem to enjoy calling me a bigot or racist yet you my friend are the first one to use a racial slur in our conversations. You accuse me of "lying" and being "uncivil" yet you do not hesitate to quote me and use my words out of context, just as you did below, to try and mislead and further advance your "point of view". Then you actually call at least one Moderator personally and start whining and *****ing, trying to turn the tables against me, you even go so far as to send him my personal pm's, without my permission!

Now, lets take a look at a few things.

First off, I find it hilarious that you can call me "White Boy" during an arguement and not expect it to be taken as, what was it you said, oh yeah......."I didn't mean it in a deragatory manner". Please, I may have been born at night but I wasn't born last night. Imagine if you will, if the tables were turned and I had used the exact same statement as you but replace the word "White Boy" with the N-word(see, I can't even repeat the word but you seem comfortable in using "White Boy" anytime you please) or "Black Boy". Now are you going to actually try and sit there and tell me that you and everyone else wouldn't find that offensive??? Of course they would, so then WhyTF would you think I wouldn't take it offensively??

Next, here is a quote from one of your posts above:

Really? As for the "bigot" term, see my statement above. I believe you have proven yourself to be exactly what you are against and also a hypocrit.

As for refering to me as a bigot who puts sick twists on the truth and makes insulting or misleading comments, well lets just take a gander at you, the accuser: here is what you said I said:





But, in all reality that's not exactly what I said is it Kam??? No sir, it's not. Actually you took two different statements, out of context, and combined them to make it appear as though I said them together, thereby trying to further your point of view and tarnish mine. I went back and counted, those two statements are almost 250 words apart!! Yet you tried to make it appear as one, shame shame Kam ole boy. And you call me a liar and a bigot who "puts sick twists on the truth and who makes misleading comments"! (Instead of offering "lessons in speach" maybe you should try and take some yourself.) Anyway, below are my orginal, unaltered, entirely two different statements in their entirety but not including the other irrelevent "words" between them to save space.


Now, I admit, considering how upset and sensitive everyone is right now(including myself) I could have been more "PC" and not put the statement "the blacks were getting pissed off and throwing the clothes on the ground........" but, that is what happened. If a crowd of White People had done it, I would not have hesitated to say "the white people were getting pissed off and throwing the clothes on the ground". You call me a "bigot" and a racist etc and if that's what you think I am, then so be it. Then again, you might take a look in the mirror at yourself. Don't think for a minute that I don't care what has happened to the good citizens of New Orleans, I do care. I have family there, I have friends there and also have fellow employee's there. I just don't care for the looters, muggers, robbers, murderers, rapists etc and I DO NOT CARE what color they are, if they are doing that crap then they deserve nothing better than a nicely placed 5.56 mm round from one of our Great Soldiers! I am bored of this drivel and I don't have time for it as I have things to do. If you find me offensive then kindly place me on ignore, it is your right, as it is mine.
Sincerely,
John

PS-Just as a side note; I work for the Government and they have asked our agency for volunteers. I offered and will now be leaving for New Orleans on Wednesday night. So don't even think that I don't care. What time should I be expecting you to arrive in New Orleans to help out also??

 

Good luck in New Orleans.

 

Well, this has turned into a royal waste of my time. So, let me clarify again, and maybe we can get some where.

You did lie. You tried to say I called you things I did not. You are the first person I have ever heard of have a problem with the term white boy, but yet I removed it just for you. So, stop beating a dead horse.

Your sick twist on the truth involves trying to say my PMs to you were other than what they were, respectful. I called the moderator as a friend not a moderator. FYI – per Texas law a conservation may be recorded with the knowledge of one person in the conversation. That person being me I send the PMs to him to prove that the allegations you made against me about the nature and tone of those conversations were false, and I don’t need your permission since I am a party to the conversation. If you must know, I turned down his offer to edit your post, and was calling only to see if the internet mode of conversation was causing me to misjudge your tone and therefore may be I had you wrong. I thought if he knew you personally he could shed some light. If you do not believe me, ask him.

Yes, I know the items quoted of you were cut and paste. That’s why I said I cut them. I was trying to show you the nature of your tone. That’s why I referenced post #3 so anyone including you who wanted the whole thing could see. My question is if the thread subject is HOW CAN I HELP. Why do you feel the need to make the tread a bash all the people evacuating thread – no info on how to help. If black people on evom want to know if there are any other black evo owners out there why do you feel the need to jump in and bash the thread. I admit I made a smart *** remark “If there a more than 2 black people at the water cooler, do you have a problem with that too? Are they plotting something? Do they hate white people?” Your answer I quote was “most of the time, yes they do.” Hence, I’m starting to see a pattern. If I got you wrong then, my mistake, but you do obvious have some sort of issues to keep jumping up and sounding off. I didn’t call you a bigot or a racist, I just said I’m against them. Do you have a guilty conscience? OK- I implied it. That’s why I called someone from Austin to get a better look. If the black/white thing does not matter, then why do you keep jumping in it? Shed some light on the subject.

I’m a racist? Bigot? How so? Where do you get that from? I called a white guy in Austin, I consider a FRIEND. I’m personal friends with many white guys on this forum. So, I don’t get it.

 

And if you must know some of my business, I own a small engineering firm here in Houston. I have teamed up my firm in a joint venture with a home builder and a contractor as well as teamed up with various architects to build and find funding for permanent housing here in Houston and New Orleans for the misplaced people. Myself and my associates are using our contacts made up of politicians in the area, sport stars, people who run HUD housing, and other public figures to get funding to provide permanent housing free of charge or at a greatly reduced rate. I am registered on the FEMA website to provide engineering services, home building services, and clean up services to New Orleans. So, I will be leaving to analyze structures and design and build neighborhoods as soon as I get the call. In the mean time I have projects on the table awaiting funding.

PS- how do you find time during the day to type these essays on your government job? Get back to work and stop wasting our tax dollars. jj