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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Angry Warning*Eurospeed Sucks* PICS INSIDE

Ok i need to let ALL of you know that Eurospeed is THE worst shop on the east coast!
i first had a complaint about them because they installed a very used AEM EMS on my car, which led to the destruction of my clutch. i called them and they told me that it was normal procedure for them to do that, HA! Well i ended up selling it to Doug from Boost Solutions, who imediately found problems with the software...since then i've installed several parts on my car. (through boost solutions) well the other day i was installing Apexi AVC-R and i needed to remove some of the upper i/c piping and my air filter. the catch can that EUROSPEED installed wasn't installed well at all. first off this thing was mounted on it's side, which shouldn't be, the hoses that ran to the catch can were loose, the entire catch can was covered in oil, and to top everything off, the entire underside of my engine was covered in oil and not to mention my air filter and piping.
obviously these guys didn't care about "quality work".
Now im not the only one that has complained about them before, my buddy who got a B16A2 installed in his civic by them had plenty of complaints. vaccum hoses werent connected wires everywhere and his clutch wasn't installed correctly so it went to ****.

so i beg of you to black list this shop and never ever get anything through them(if you care about your car)!

gonz

p.s. alex you really do crappy work! LOSER!

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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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i first had a complaint about them because they installed a very used AEM EMS on my car, which led to the destruction of my clutch

How, you car made too much power???
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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This thread belongs in a Regional forum. Where in the East coast is this shop located? I'll move it for ya.

And how did the EMS lead to your clutch needing to be replaced? To me, the engine management system seems totally unrelated to the clutchs operation.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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And how did the EMS lead to your clutch needing to be replaced? To me, the engine management system seems totally unrelated to the clutchs operation.
Only on any other car, this is a Mitsubishi EVO. Hell just ask the dealer they will tell ya. LOL

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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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Only on any other car, this is a Mitsubishi EVO. Hell just ask the dealer they will tell ya. LOL

LMAO!!!
very interested in hearing how this occured. that sucks.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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I don't know about the clutch, but the catch can was a mess Doug and Gonz worked on his car at my house. There was oil everywhere including on the battery, transmission, air-filter was soaked, turbo was filled, etc. The hoses on the catch can were kinked. It was ugly just for a catch can. We took pics, he may post them considering how upset he is.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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the boost was all out of wak. we tuned that car 3 times with the same results. it kept coming back to the original map like a day after each tune. i mean my clutch was fine before, because i babied my car. and as soon as i removed the ems the clutch went to sh••. i really do stand by my opinion and facts. like i said before im not the only one with complaints.
the guys up there did a HALF *** job and know they're going to pay for it...i mean i could be a real ******* and go to the Better Business Bureau....but instead i decide to let you all know how crappy their work is.

sorry for calling you a loser alex im just really pissed off, all that oil in my intake and piping being sucked in constantly, could have really ****ed up my car....

gonz
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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I believe he is referring to his clutch because with the way his EMS was tuned you could not take off from low RPM's. Trying to start his car from anything lower than 3000 rpms would cause the car to shake back and forth violently. So he had to slip it every time trying to take off smooth. Gonz any input on this?
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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thats exactly what happened... god i thought that ems was the **** the first day i drove, but by the time i got home the next day, the car was all out of wak...
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by gonzstarr
Ok i need to let ALL of you know that Eurospeed is THE worst shop on the east coast!
i first had a complaint about them because they installed a very used AEM EMS on my car, which led to the destruction of my clutch. i called them and they told me that it was normal procedure for them to do that, HA! Well i ended up selling it to Doug from Boost Solutions, who imediately found problems with the software...since then i've installed several parts on my car. (through boost solutions) well the other day i was installing Apexi AVC-R and i needed to remove some of the upper i/c piping and my air filter. the catch can that EUROSPEED installed wasn't installed well at all. first off this thing was mounted on it's side, which shouldn't be, the hoses that ran to the catch can were loose, the entire catch can was covered in oil, and to top everything off, the entire underside of my engine was covered in oil and not to mention my air filter and piping.
obviously these guys didn't care about "quality work".
Now im not the only one that has complained about them before, my buddy who got a B16A2 installed in his civic by them had plenty of complaints. vaccum hoses werent connected wires everywhere and his clutch wasn't installed correctly so it went to ****.

so i beg of you to black list this shop and never ever get anything through them(if you care about your car)!

gonz

p.s. alex you really do crappy work! LOSER!
gonz,

the greddy catch-can can be set up to run either vertical or horizontal. we set it up to run horizontal due to space restrictions.

you brought in the parts in a plastic bag to us, no instructions or anything. we used all the parts you supplied to us and made sure everything was secure. no kinks in the lines, no obstructions, etc. we showed you where we mounted everything before we even went out for the first road test. you said everything looked good and was fine.

when you have a catch can, you're supposed to check the oil level in it to empty the thing every so often. also, with the lines just slipped on to the inlet nipples (like greddy has you do it), they're not exactly like screw on AN fittings.

when your car left here, it was driving and acting perfectly fine. no complaints from you at the time you left or the next day when i called you to see if everything was still good.

we have done countless cars w/ the aem ems, including prototyping the viper ems unit for aem. we have lots of out of state customers who come to us to have their cars tuned, and never a problem with any of them. a couple members on this board w/ ems's that we have tuned too, with no problems.

i know we did a quality job on your car when we worked on it, because it's the same stuff we do on a day to day basis. and i'm going to leave it at that.

if you want to continue to be childish and call names, etc, go right ahead, i can't stop you. but for being a military man, i would have assumed you would be much more mature about situations like this and contact us directly about it first to see what we can do to make things right, but this is the road you decided to take and there's not much i can do about it except defend myself.

-alex (posting under jason's name)

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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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well alex im glad you think the work u did on my ems and catch can was up to your so called standards...but you know what, it really wasn't up to par.
i brought you the greddy catch can with all the hardware except the bracket and bolts...it was stupid of me to think that you could install this piece for me. you know i figured that maybe, just maybe, you being mechanically inclined would help out some. i told you exactly what i needed and you said no problem. but anyway, the lines ended up being loose, they werent hooked up correctly or anything. so the end result of a half *** job was oil everywhere...im sorry i hurt your feelings or said something to question you as a mechanic, but all i have to go on, is the work you've done for me.
here are some pics of your work, or jason's.







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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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dude this is ridiculous. I had my AEM EMS installed and tuned at Eurospeed and my car runs like a dream. I personally know another guy with a red evo who had his AEM EMS installed and tuned at Eurospeed and his car also runs perfectly. If there was a problem with the unit, how can alex do anything about that. That's not his fault. As far as your car running differently the next day, that doesn't make sense. A tune doesn't just change itself. If you filled up with a new tank of gas that may have made a difference but you should have taken it back to Eurospeed if it was acting funny. After I refilled my tank I went back and Jason went with me to take some data logs and tweek things for the gas station I usually fill up at. A few days later I went back again to have my cold start tweeked cuz it wasn't perfect (in my eyes). Both times, alex and jason were more than willing to help me and fix whatever I asked for no extra charge. They stand behind their tune and their work. I have had a few other things done there and I have left with nothing bu confidence in their worksmanship. It is very immature to get on the internet and badmouth a reputable company before even asking them to do anything about it. I don't know about the oil catch can but you do have to empty it every once in a while. You know that, right? I actually posted a thread a couple days ago about my VERY positive experience with Eurospeed. ( https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ight=eurospeed )
I'm sure if you would have gone back up there they would have done anything they could have to make it right. You can't expect people to be perfect. But you can expect them to fix something when it's less than perfect. And judging by my experience, jason and alex are both the kind of people I would want working on my car. :d
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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Speaking of perfect, didn't you (the car owner) come to the shop with a "less than perfect" catch can? If you're missing hardware/parts, how can you expect something to work properly?

Cabo
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Could not say it better myself En1gma.. I personnally know En1gma and his car is perfect! I also will be taking my car to EUROSPEED for my AEM When I decide i have the money to do it! Did you ever actually sit down and talk to jason/Alex they are VERRY GOOD Guys!

I have not heard ANYTHING BAD come out of thier work (except for this thread but im skeptikal of your anti-evospeed attitude so i dont count it)!
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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I think this is also ridiculous. I own the very first evo that Eurospeed ever tuned and it runs perfectly, and has ran great since day one. Once again someone gets on the forum talking trash when if they had any sack they would handle the matter directly with the people who performed the install. Don't try to sway other peoples opinions about a store or there installation abilities, when you yourself said you brought in a part in a plastic bag that was missing pieces. Sound pretty ignorant to me. Don't be so quick to place blame on someone else when the major component that links all the problems is you....
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