Brake Stuff :)
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Brake Stuff :)
Well I personally have to get some work done soon for the lancer.
My brakes are fading. Now I could just get new pads. but I think I might make a nicer upgrade 

And whats cooler is we got multiple colors to choose from. Black, gold silver,
hehe I am going to talk this over with some of the officers to see who is going to spear head this one 
stay tuned
My brakes are fading. Now I could just get new pads. but I think I might make a nicer upgrade 

And whats cooler is we got multiple colors to choose from. Black, gold silver,
hehe I am going to talk this over with some of the officers to see who is going to spear head this one 
stay tuned
Love the cross drilled look, I was planning on doin it for next spring since mine are still brand new might aswell beat them up a bit and put them thru a winter. Then I'm gonna put on my crossed drilled rotors.
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I'd stay away from the cross drilled guys... their known for cracking. The slotted will work fine. last thing you want is your brakes failing.
also what manufacture are you getting these from?
"edit* added a few quotes to back up the above
Greg K
slotted rotors are much better than drilled. They don't have the "bling factor" but they are very functional. I use slotted rotors exclusively on my race car each drilled hole acts as a stress riser (points of high stress concentration) which in-turn makes them highly succeptable to cracking. Under high temperature/ high cycle use.
<edit> - even says in their add that you posted that drilled rotors are not waranteed against warpage and cracking.
Want to Evo
on my Supra I had cross drilled brembos and I cracked all four of them, that was all street driving. Since then I stay away from cross drilled rotors.
just a few.. the drilled may look nice but not worth the risk in my eyes.
also what manufacture are you getting these from?
"edit* added a few quotes to back up the above
Greg K
slotted rotors are much better than drilled. They don't have the "bling factor" but they are very functional. I use slotted rotors exclusively on my race car each drilled hole acts as a stress riser (points of high stress concentration) which in-turn makes them highly succeptable to cracking. Under high temperature/ high cycle use.
<edit> - even says in their add that you posted that drilled rotors are not waranteed against warpage and cracking.
Want to Evo
on my Supra I had cross drilled brembos and I cracked all four of them, that was all street driving. Since then I stay away from cross drilled rotors.
just a few.. the drilled may look nice but not worth the risk in my eyes.
Last edited by turbotime; Jul 15, 2009 at 09:06 AM.
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I wouldnt worry about cracking these seem to be the real deal. And quality is not in question. The name I of the company I cant remember, I am using my cell phone, but when i get home I will open up the emails and source the name. I do know that this manufacturer affiliates with Brembo, AP Racing, Wilwood, and Hawk Brake. One of our sponsors interacts with them so I would say its a reputable source 
more details as they come
heading to Dixie and Scarb Mitsu

more details as they come

heading to Dixie and Scarb Mitsu
hmmm now that turbo's mentioned them
i can see how logically each hole would be a point of where the stress is concentrated if you think about it. and plus the more holes the less metal inbetween...so i think to be safe i'll go w/ slotted.
i mean slotted rotors look pretty good too =P
i can see how logically each hole would be a point of where the stress is concentrated if you think about it. and plus the more holes the less metal inbetween...so i think to be safe i'll go w/ slotted.
i mean slotted rotors look pretty good too =P
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I'm not saying these aren't good rotors, heck we dont even know who makes them yet lol.. from the second set of pics they look like a two piece rotor (you can see where the center disc is riveted to the brake disc) they look like high quality, if they are at an affordable price, I'd say many members should be interested. Just go with the slotted, dont risk the drilled.
Even the high end brembo and similar drilled rotros have failed so why take the chance.
The idea of slotting or drilling is to allow pad gasses to escape from between the pad and the rotor. slotted let the braking gasses escape better and thus your pad isn't prone to too much fading since it doesn't ride on a think film of gas (which cannot be compressed) but rather on the rotor itself.In reality, most of the pad manufacturers tell me that modern pads don't outgas very much, so in general it's probably not needed. Holes can lead to stress concentration that can eventually cause cracking.
I'm not saying these aren't good rotors, heck we dont even know who makes them yet lol.. from the second set of pics they look like a two piece rotor (you can see where the center disc is riveted to the brake disc) they look like high quality, if they are at an affordable price, I'd say many members should be interested. Just go with the slotted, dont risk the drilled.
Even the high end brembo and similar drilled rotros have failed so why take the chance.
The idea of slotting or drilling is to allow pad gasses to escape from between the pad and the rotor. slotted let the braking gasses escape better and thus your pad isn't prone to too much fading since it doesn't ride on a think film of gas (which cannot be compressed) but rather on the rotor itself.In reality, most of the pad manufacturers tell me that modern pads don't outgas very much, so in general it's probably not needed. Holes can lead to stress concentration that can eventually cause cracking.
guys i found a good article here
on drilled vs slotted....inline with what turbotime has to say, but quite a good read..explains why =P
good call turbo ur comment lead to research =D
http://www.myasylum.com/cars/messages/44.html
on drilled vs slotted....inline with what turbotime has to say, but quite a good read..explains why =P
http://www.myasylum.com/cars/messages/44.html
I might be wrong but isnt friction more of a worry then stress? The clamping down on the brake pad vs the friction it takes to slow the car down? Its not like we are driving at very high speeds with our Lancers
. I can see them coming into play on EVO's and faster high end cars but not ours.
I think it all depends on who manufactures them and how they do it. Will wait and see the final update / post.
. I can see them coming into play on EVO's and faster high end cars but not ours.I think it all depends on who manufactures them and how they do it. Will wait and see the final update / post.
I might be wrong but isnt friction more of a worry then stress? The clamping down on the brake pad vs the friction it takes to slow the car down? Its not like we are driving at very high speeds with our Lancers
. I can see them coming into play on EVO's and faster high end cars but not ours.
I think it all depends on who manufactures them and how they do it. Will wait and see the final update / post.
. I can see them coming into play on EVO's and faster high end cars but not ours.I think it all depends on who manufactures them and how they do it. Will wait and see the final update / post.
but stress is caused by friction =P cant have stress w/o friction or friction w/o stress =P
^ Ur right. LOL I was thinking that there would be more stress caused by the rotating disc then the clamping down of the pads. I guess at faster speeds this will come into play.
Are these cast as one piece or two? one of the picture shows bolts holding the center hub on.
Are these cast as one piece or two? one of the picture shows bolts holding the center hub on.
if cross drilled are indeed as bad as everyone claims, then why issit that brembo BBK's come with cross drilled. why is it that high end performance vehicles all come with drilled rotors?
am just curious.
am just curious.




