TEIN Basic damper (coilovers) - consideration
The BCs are actually a MUCH better choice compared to these as TurboTime said.
Actually, they had a pretty good track record for the Subbie and Nissan guys.
-Their spring rates are very constant, as they are dynoed and matched at the factory
-Their dampening adjustment is also very linear, and have little cross effects, proven by many third party shock dynos
-1year warranty, $95 per corner for replacement after that one year
-Can be custom valved from the factory
-Can have custom spring setups
-Height adjustable without effecting spring rates
-Pillow ball camber plates that are made by white-line
Oh, and some of the top cars on the redline TA series are running on BCs too.
But be sure to get rear extenders if you go BC.
But in the end... If you want Teins, get Monoflex, nothing less.
Actually, they had a pretty good track record for the Subbie and Nissan guys.
-Their spring rates are very constant, as they are dynoed and matched at the factory
-Their dampening adjustment is also very linear, and have little cross effects, proven by many third party shock dynos
-1year warranty, $95 per corner for replacement after that one year
-Can be custom valved from the factory
-Can have custom spring setups
-Height adjustable without effecting spring rates
-Pillow ball camber plates that are made by white-line
Oh, and some of the top cars on the redline TA series are running on BCs too.
But be sure to get rear extenders if you go BC.
But in the end... If you want Teins, get Monoflex, nothing less.
wow pm me details please... as I said I contacted a few vendors here and got nowhere trying to work out a deal on the bc's which is one of the reasons were looking into the Teins. (better relations with dealer/vendor)
Even if there isn't enough interest in the club for them I still wouldn't mind looking into it for myself.
Like I said, for me, money wise I think there the best option unless your looking to spend 2g's or more on suspension.
Even if there isn't enough interest in the club for them I still wouldn't mind looking into it for myself.
Like I said, for me, money wise I think there the best option unless your looking to spend 2g's or more on suspension.
what did you really expect from a relatively uneducated group tho
The BC-ERs are a very competitive setup that comes in just under that 2000 mark, both price wise and performance wise.
The 2000+ range is dominated by the MonoFlex, V3ClubSports, and AST Custom packages, both of the latter requiring a shop / race team to put together a good package but over all, i would say the latter two are the best options for drivers looking for performance both on, and off the road.
And lastly, the all out range, it's a close call between Ohlins DFVs and Tein SRCs, both sitting on top of the hill in the sub3500 range.
A Quality Shock/Spring combo with a good alignment would be money better spent then on a set of generic style coilovers. For 95% of the people who want to lower there car coilovers are useless and more of a paint than anything. The remaining 5% are the ones who will spend the money on KW or AST setups.
A Quality Shock/Spring combo with a good alignment would be money better spent then on a set of generic style coilovers. For 95% of the people who want to lower there car coilovers are useless and more of a paint than anything. The remaining 5% are the ones who will spend the money on KW or AST setups.
Good point Chris, but with a good Shock/Spring combo costing up to $800, it would be worth it for some to go with coil overs, therefore they can corner balance, have a more custom setup (spring rates and valving) and change the ride height as they wish for the changing seasons.
Last edited by Touge Tuning; Dec 18, 2009 at 06:33 PM.
The problem is that in the price range your referring the dampers are poo quality and the springs are not that great. If you took them and added a set of swift coilovers springs and had them properly valves for the springs that would be reasonable but for ride quality and handling I still suggest a spring/shock unless your getting into a set of KW or similar coilovers which is a different price range altogether.
Also, the springs are of pretty good quality, not sure if you've ever seen / been on a set..
For the price range, i'd still suggest a set of coilovers over spring/shocks anyday.
Last edited by WoW; Dec 18, 2009 at 05:08 PM.
Chris, you can get them custom valved from the factory for no extra charge. You can also get specific spring rates for each corner.
Also, the springs are of pretty good quality, not sure if you've ever seen / been on a set..
For the price range, i'd still suggest a set of coilovers over spring/shocks anyday.
Also, the springs are of pretty good quality, not sure if you've ever seen / been on a set..
For the price range, i'd still suggest a set of coilovers over spring/shocks anyday.
Under $1000-1500 I would stick with shocks/springs of good quality, Koni Yellow or FSD, KYB AGX, Tokico D-Spec, Bilstein HD's and a set of RCE, Swift, Eibach Pro-Kit Springs is going to be better for what the end user needs. Coilovers will be harsh, noisey and just aren't designed to be run through the winter in this range...heck I wouldn't even recommend running KW V3's in the winter.
All of them use inferior internals and the springs are generic ones aswell. They may all look similar but springs can be of very different quality etc.
Under $1000-1500 I would stick with shocks/springs of good quality, Koni Yellow or FSD, KYB AGX, Tokico D-Spec, Bilstein HD's and a set of RCE, Swift, Eibach Pro-Kit Springs is going to be better for what the end user needs. Coilovers will be harsh, noisey and just aren't designed to be run through the winter in this range...heck I wouldn't even recommend running KW V3's in the winter.
Under $1000-1500 I would stick with shocks/springs of good quality, Koni Yellow or FSD, KYB AGX, Tokico D-Spec, Bilstein HD's and a set of RCE, Swift, Eibach Pro-Kit Springs is going to be better for what the end user needs. Coilovers will be harsh, noisey and just aren't designed to be run through the winter in this range...heck I wouldn't even recommend running KW V3's in the winter.
Were stuck with putting lowering springs on the oem shock bodies which is no good.
This is why I would go with the BC's any day over a set of custom swift springs on my oem shocks.
You have to keep in mind majority of the lancer guys wouldn't drop the money for a custom set of JIC's KW v3's or JRZ's ect.. if they were even made for our cars, it just doesn't make sense.
The details you are comparing on the BC's are indeed true but again your stacking them against the higher end of the coilover spectrum they will obviously be inferior but for what 95% of the guys in the club would use them for I could bet they would suit them just fine.



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