Hehe, i thought there be a slew of questions after that last post. Oh well, guess everybody's partying or sleeping still.

 

Yea it will.but then youll need an authorized tuner which i think is bs because what if i want to learn it? i cant.

 

So im guessing there will be some kind of external MAP sensor for most of us that need more then the 2.5 bar?

Thanks
Chris

 

yes there is.i use a 5 bar with my E8.

 

yes of course.You will wire an external map sensor just like AEM etc.The onboard map sensor is just a bonus.

Chris

 

How much of internal memory does it have for logging. How about logging rates? Knock detection? Individual cylinder knock detection? Individual Cylinder Mapping? Autotune?

And when are we going to finally get Ion Sensing? I guy can dream cant he?

Chris

 

Would you rather learn on your 30k dollar car or have somebody that is a PROFESSIONAL, like Sean Ivey tune it for you?

I see what your saying but tuning is one cost associated with cars that I will always be willing to spend on until I can afford to replace my motors each time I make a mistake.

Scorke

 

They have 512K of onboard memory and upto 200 samples per second. The higher you set and the more channels you log the quicker it will fill up.

Knock detection will be available on the Pro unit, no word on the Sport yet.

You have the choice to use the internal 2.5bar map sensor if you're not going to go beyond that point, but if you require a higher pressure map sensor you have the external MAP sensor input, and this can be calibrated all the way up to 7bars (87psi of boost).

Individual ignition and fuel trim (percentage based for fuel, degree based for ignition) is available currently.

Individual cylinder mapping as in a complete table for each cylinder, no.

Autotune, yes.

Ion sensing, which EMS out there currently does that? Or for that matter who in the automotive world uses that currently, and how much does that option cost? You think that for less than 1350 or 1700 bucks a unit that could be put in there? Yes, we can all hope and dream. I'd like there to be electronic valves already so the use of Cams would be a thing of the past and you could tune your engines power and torque curve to perfection and we can all rev to 18k, i guess that would require an ECU with at least 8 injector drivers, 8 ignition drivers, 16 digital outputs, 32 analog inputs, 4 wideband sensor inputs, 4 road speed inputs, artificial intelligence, a 64bit 1.8ghz processor, and a 2 nasa engineers in the back seat with telemetry. And thats just for a 4 cylinder!!!! Hahahaha



We can all dream!

Hopefully these new systems will pack a great package that will let you do as much as possible without having to spend big bucks and tune the engine very good. The current AWD white EVO8 with the E8 has shown what can be done with the current versions of the ECUs, these new ECUs promise a much nicer package all around that hopefully will take the brand to new heights.

Keep your questions coming.

 

Put one of those 7 bar map sensors aside for me.. We will need it very soon..

 

No worries mate! Just let me know!

 

Im the type that does my own work.Ive been tuning my own Haltechs way back since F3 days.My racecar runs in the 8s(not an evo) i guess i dont do a bad job.obviously your an Ivey fan so thats why you pushing Fcon.

 

Sounds very promising i must admit. Hope you were not taking offense to any of my questions just interested in what i might be purchasing.

As far as the Ion sensing there currently are no ecu's out at this time that are supporting it. There is talk the new Autronic SM5 coming out in the next year will support this option. They have been working on it since the SM4 came out. Problem is it really was not cost effective and still to this day is pretty expensive. But if and when it does come out it will be ground breaking. Not a very good situation for tuners i would have to say but im sure there will always be a need somehow.

Can i get a price for the PRO UNIT shipped to 99338 with the 7 bar map sensor.

Thanks for all the quick and detailed responses!

EDIT: Also i have to give you a big THUMBS UP!!!! for the USB support its about time somebody does this!

Chris

 

Oh one more question. What was the Haltech designed for as far as trigger pickups? As in 12 tooth crank 1 tooth cam or whatever it may be? Just wondering if it is similar to the AEM as it is designed for a certain setup and then just uses formulas depending on the individual car's setup.

Thanks
Chris

 

Nah man! no offense taken, its all in good fun, as i said, we we could all have our way, if every little wish list item made it to an EMS the end result would be something spectacular indeed.

On your Platinum Pro request, it still is a little further off from release than the Sport units, the Pro will eventually be a full ECU and as an example, will be a full replacement in the new skyline GT-R eventually. But as of right now, its only available as the nissan 350Z plug in kit. Development is already underway for a few other platforms, but in piggyback style installs like the 350Z box. Maybe by SEMA this year we'll have the full ECU box available to showcase and sell.

On the trigger question, Haltech is as universal as they come, to get them sync'd to any particular engine we have a few simple settings like trigger angle, tooth offset, edges, etc., Haltech makes it very simple. There are lots of trigger options to choose from in the software, they range from:

Standart trigger (same # of pulses per cylinder)
Motronic (missing tooth, 36-1, 36-2, 60-2, etc.)
Multitooth (12+1, 24+1)
Mitsubishi
Subaru Pre MY01 and MY01 and up
Mazda old and new
Nissan (all)
Chevy LS1
Honda DC5 (K series)
Toyota Multitooth and Missing tooth
Etc., etc., etc...

And of course, there is variable cam control for a few of the more popular models of engines, i-Vtec, VVT-i, Nissan VCT, Subaru, MIVEC, Vanos, etc. And of course, you have the onboard reluctor adapter which works very well on VR sensors, if you dont have Hall Effect like the Mitsus do.

 

Any other questions on these new systems?

Here are a few more screenshots of the softwre. Enjoy!







The reason for this image is so you can see that the map files now have association so you can now double click them and the ECU Manager launches, where as before there wasnt any.



Here's a shot of the new Datalogger Software, much much better than the previous version.

The software is now smarter too, it knows when you've made a mistake and turns the incorrect fields red and tells you what the value should be.

If you noticed, on the main screen there are tabs for Fuel, Ignition, Cam Control, Engine Data, these labels and tabs are totally customizable to the user's preferences, as many pages as you want can be designed, with any layout you want. You have bar graphs, gauges, 2d/3d/text map options, numbered fields, trace screens, etc., all can be of any size and position. When the page is done you save it and this is kept in a config file for the ECU Manager, its not map dependent.

The software comes with 3 default layouts, but you can change these at will as soon as you install the software. If anybody wants get a feel for it you can go to the Haltech website and download the current Nissan 350Z Platinum ECU Manager software and play with it, its identical in the look and feel of the software but it doesnt have all the extra main setup features the Sport universal units have.