how much does a tune cost?
I'm quite certain you don't want to base your decision of who tunes your car by who's cheapest. You know what they say, if you have to put it on "sale", it's because it wasn't selling. You may want to do a search and see what our clients have to say about CBRD's tunes and also the service provided.
My $.02.
My $.02.
HE's in DC, which is right where Brad Brooks is. Brad has a long history in the DSM and now Evo community and knows what he's doing. If he wants to drive long distances to get tuned, that's up to him, but it seems to make more sense that he leverage someone in his own back yard.
Can't beat the DTM deal. 275 first time. Change exhaust and want retune, free. Add an intake and want retune, free. Changes from summer to winter and you want a tune, free. And vice versa.
Do they know what their doing? At their Dyno day this past Saturday I did 601 on pump in 101 degree heat. Then 657 on 50/50 with c16. Give Nick a pm. He'll take care of you.
Do they know what their doing? At their Dyno day this past Saturday I did 601 on pump in 101 degree heat. Then 657 on 50/50 with c16. Give Nick a pm. He'll take care of you.
I just got tuned 2 days ago at AMS in chicago for 395. It was on the dyno for a while and we tried a few things and double and triple checked for boost leaks and stuff. I had a good experience there... I had taken care of al the boost leaks the night b4 but we wanted to see if I had tiny leaks in the vaccum lines
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I go to DTM. Ever since I have been there, I havent heard or seen a complaint at all. And that whole bullsh*t about you get what you pay for......uh, no.
What part of DC are you in? Im in China town and SE all the time.
What part of DC are you in? Im in China town and SE all the time.
my $.02
I'm quite certain you don't want to base your decision of who tunes your car by who's cheapest. You know what they say, if you have to put it on "sale", it's because it wasn't selling. You may want to do a search and see what our clients have to say about CBRD's tunes and also the service provided.
My $.02.
My $.02.
As far as DTM's tuning, here's my personal experience:
I tuned my Evo myself from 2003 to mid-2007 -- first with an SAFC/wideband, then with a UTEC, then with ECUFlash (I didn't trust "professional tooners"). Then and now I log my car regularly because I'm always paranoid about blowing the motor, no matter who is tuning it. I also do almost all mechanical work on the car myself, because I'm a DIY perfectionist and have rarely been satisfied by the work I've received from other "shops."
When I decided to start tracking my car in 2007, I decided to have DTM tune it because they were the only shop in town tuning a sizable number of cars that saw road course time and I didn't feel comfortable second guessing how my maps would perform under much harsher conditions than the street or dyno. I am not a newbie driver (been tracking since 2001), so I knew that I would be harder on the car than the majority of Evo drivers who are relative novices on track.
When Nick first tuned it on the dyno, I was very surprised that he was able to get more power out of the car on the dyno with a more conservative tune (based on timing numbers, etc.). I immediately went out and flogged and logged (heh...kinda catchy) the car on the street, which is difficult since you can't really test the car in 4th and 5th gear at high RPMs, and was satisfied that the tune was knock-free and safe.
Since then, I've tweaked cam choices and a few other things and pulled another 30 or so whp out of the car, and in the process done a total of 15 track days at Summit Main, Shenandoah, VIR South, VIR Full and Pocono, mostly in Advanced run groups and mostly on 93 octane. The car has not failed me and its won me trophies in Redline Time Attack (3rd place Street and Runner-up in Modified) and SCCA autocrosses (Street Mod class).
This spring I installed a 95 db piezo buzzer in my car along with the KnockCEL ECU mod, so if I see more than X counts of knock, a smoke alarm goes off in my car (or at least it sounds like one). That buzzer stays quiet on the track and yet the car moves out.
Getting back to cfetter/CBRD's comment, there's no need to put down other shops to make a case for DTM. Their work speaks for itself.
AMS charged me $395 and i couldn't be happier with there service as well as tune....i used the previous mail in flashes and trying to save some money on tuning but from 1st hand experience DO NOT make money a priority when it comes to tuning and electronics with your car, it will probabley come back to haunt you later on
That remark was really unnecessary and reckless on your part.
As far as DTM's tuning, here's my personal experience:
I tuned my Evo myself from 2003 to mid-2007 -- first with an SAFC/wideband, then with a UTEC, then with ECUFlash (I didn't trust "professional tooners"). Then and now I log my car regularly because I'm always paranoid about blowing the motor, no matter who is tuning it. I also do almost all mechanical work on the car myself, because I'm a DIY perfectionist and have rarely been satisfied by the work I've received from other "shops."
When I decided to start tracking my car in 2007, I decided to have DTM tune it because they were the only shop in town tuning a sizable number of cars that saw road course time and I didn't feel comfortable second guessing how my maps would perform under much harsher conditions than the street or dyno. I am not a newbie driver (been tracking since 2001), so I knew that I would be harder on the car than the majority of Evo drivers who are relative novices on track.
When Nick first tuned it on the dyno, I was very surprised that he was able to get more power out of the car on the dyno with a more conservative tune (based on timing numbers, etc.). I immediately went out and flogged and logged (heh...kinda catchy) the car on the street, which is difficult since you can't really test the car in 4th and 5th gear at high RPMs, and was satisfied that the tune was knock-free and safe.
Since then, I've tweaked cam choices and a few other things and pulled another 30 or so whp out of the car, and in the process done a total of 15 track days at Summit Main, Shenandoah, VIR South, VIR Full and Pocono, mostly in Advanced run groups and mostly on 93 octane. The car has not failed me and its won me trophies in Redline Time Attack (3rd place Street and Runner-up in Modified) and SCCA autocrosses (Street Mod class).
This spring I installed a 95 db piezo buzzer in my car along with the KnockCEL ECU mod, so if I see more than X counts of knock, a smoke alarm goes off in my car (or at least it sounds like one). That buzzer stays quiet on the track and yet the car moves out.
Getting back to cfetter/CBRD's comment, there's no need to put down other shops to make a case for DTM. Their work speaks for itself.
As far as DTM's tuning, here's my personal experience:
I tuned my Evo myself from 2003 to mid-2007 -- first with an SAFC/wideband, then with a UTEC, then with ECUFlash (I didn't trust "professional tooners"). Then and now I log my car regularly because I'm always paranoid about blowing the motor, no matter who is tuning it. I also do almost all mechanical work on the car myself, because I'm a DIY perfectionist and have rarely been satisfied by the work I've received from other "shops."
When I decided to start tracking my car in 2007, I decided to have DTM tune it because they were the only shop in town tuning a sizable number of cars that saw road course time and I didn't feel comfortable second guessing how my maps would perform under much harsher conditions than the street or dyno. I am not a newbie driver (been tracking since 2001), so I knew that I would be harder on the car than the majority of Evo drivers who are relative novices on track.
When Nick first tuned it on the dyno, I was very surprised that he was able to get more power out of the car on the dyno with a more conservative tune (based on timing numbers, etc.). I immediately went out and flogged and logged (heh...kinda catchy) the car on the street, which is difficult since you can't really test the car in 4th and 5th gear at high RPMs, and was satisfied that the tune was knock-free and safe.
Since then, I've tweaked cam choices and a few other things and pulled another 30 or so whp out of the car, and in the process done a total of 15 track days at Summit Main, Shenandoah, VIR South, VIR Full and Pocono, mostly in Advanced run groups and mostly on 93 octane. The car has not failed me and its won me trophies in Redline Time Attack (3rd place Street and Runner-up in Modified) and SCCA autocrosses (Street Mod class).
This spring I installed a 95 db piezo buzzer in my car along with the KnockCEL ECU mod, so if I see more than X counts of knock, a smoke alarm goes off in my car (or at least it sounds like one). That buzzer stays quiet on the track and yet the car moves out.
Getting back to cfetter/CBRD's comment, there's no need to put down other shops to make a case for DTM. Their work speaks for itself.
here we go again,
im certain cfetter didnt direct that at DTM.... im getting sick of this shop to shop BS...
he was simply stating if someone is charging 50 bucks for a tune, and someone is charging 500 bucks for a tune, generally you are paying for experience, equipment, etc...
cb