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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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Yes, it can be done through XMAP as well. But i'm still an old-schooler and tend to use Xupdate just for fun.

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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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just got everything updated with the firmare and xmap 3.2....i don;t even have my smart stuff installed yet (meaning i have smart fuel and timing zeroed out) but it feels better at top end with the boost already...is this possible?

Still can't find the launch control in xmap yet though....help.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KillaSweep
just got everything updated with the firmare and xmap 3.2....i don;t even have my smart stuff installed yet (meaning i have smart fuel and timing zeroed out) but it feels better at top end with the boost already...is this possible?
Yes, this is normal. There is still some SMART stuff going on behind the scenes that aren't represented in the SMART tables. Even without the knock buffer and wideband, there will be improvements.

Still can't find the launch control in xmap yet though....help
That's because the launch control map is not in those SMART templates that I posted up yesterday. I'll be posting lauch control equipped templates tomorrow (set at a nice 6400rpm

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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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Should be configurable....6400 is too high for the stock clutch.

I too have upgraded firmware and xcode but it still feels the same. I only did it for the launch controls. DA /\/\ /\/\ IT
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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From what I understand you can now tell the Xede what A/F you would like to maintain and it will do so. How do you do this? I see the SMART fuel table with some +4% to -2.3% values. What are these doing? How do they correlate to keeping an A/F, or do I not have the SMART activated? Basically, I guess some of us who have never tuned need some sort of instruction book on what we are looking at and what it does. Like if I input x in colum a what happens? If I but in x+2 what happens? How do we use this program? I know that the Vishnu guys see this as elemetry stuff, but I for one do not know how to make it work.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Don't touch the SMART tables unless there is a really good reason to. ALL of the tuning that you will be doing will be done through the normal Fuel, Timing and Boost tables. Just like before. Except now that you can monitor wideband signal and knock noise. The idea is to leave the SMART fuel and timing table alone and doing its own thing, all by itself. It doesn't need anyone help

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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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I believe the reason you purchased SMART was so you wouldn't have to adjust those tables from the baseline maps. SMART should pretty much provide you with a custom tune above and beyond the baseline.

The only thing I am concerned about is relying on the health of a wideband sensor to prevent bad things from happening.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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Subscribed....Can't wait til I get mine in...
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
I believe the reason you purchased SMART was so you wouldn't have to adjust those tables from the baseline maps. SMART should pretty much provide you with a custom tune above and beyond the baseline.

The only thing I am concerned about is relying on the health of a wideband sensor to prevent bad things from happening.
The SMART system is not designed to autotune your car. It designed so that your reasonably well calibrated baseline map adapts to anything you can reasonably throw it at as far as changes as operating environments go. You are always advised to get the baseline map as good as you can get it. Of course, the requirements now on how good it must be have been greatly reduced. Still, all the info is there to look at (AFR, and wideband) with more to come very soon...

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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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I keep seeing launch control come up, is this the same thing as what they put in the newer MR's that allows it to hold a certain rpm when the throttle is floored with the clutch in in 1st gear? Or are we talking about the drive train busting launch at 10psi?

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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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A launch control file is now available.

Its just like the 05's but it has a configurable RPM setting.

FYI - I can easily get 15PSI with the same studderbox in my DSM.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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Its gonna be a late one tonight boys and girls. Check later today for an updated install guide.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Read the new edit!!


Do not power the wideband off of the xede, new instructions coming tonight.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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And if it is that way right now what have we done??? Please tell me I did not jack something up... I drove the car to work tonight and the wideband says absolutely do not drive with it unpowered, so I do not have the option of just cutting the wire....
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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I noticed something today about the current dropping when the AC is switched on and off. It can cause the wideband to kick back into boot mode. So i am redoing the instructions to tap power off of a more dedicated source. And FWIW, the wideband can be run without power for short periouds of time. However, running it weeks on end with no power, may shorten its life.



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