What to do? Here's a great oppurtunity to flame, argue, or convince someone which is better. First the car:
stock block and heads
TME turbo
HKS 272 intake and exhaust cams
RC Engineering 750 CC injectors
Perrin front mount
RMR intercooler piping
jetcoated tubular manifold and O2 housing
Helix 3" downpipe
Random technologies high flow cat
Perrin 3" cat back exhaust
HKS suction intake
Greddy RS blow - off valve ( I was going to change from MAF to MAP)
Defi boost, EGT, and oil pressure gauges
AEM wideband O2 sensor/gauge

I have an Autronic plug and play board with the AIT sensor.
I have an AEM ECU with MAP and AIT sensor.
I have an Apexi boost solonoid and a GM boost solonoid.
I have an AEM EGT sensor.
I can afford a XEDE with SMART.

This car is my daily driver and I don't have time to fool with it all the time. It's up to you guys to convince me why a XED would be a better choice that one of the other two. My thought are as follows: the AEM is great if you know how to tune it and want the most HP you can possilby get out of your car. It is a royal pain in the *** to learn and if you are not a mechanic you may end up with a piece of melted aluminum rather easily. That + the mistake of letting someone else work on my VR4 equals an engine with a broke piston! From everything I've read the Autronic is simple to use and once you change the settings to your mods your car will run well. Tuning is supposedly similar for us rank amateurs and if you have the wideband that will hook up to it you can autotune the car and it run well. It does nothing for the timing. If the Xede works as advertised with SMART I can load a reasonable configuration close to my car, drive it, let SMART work, gradually push the car, and get a reasonable tune. At least that is my understanding of what SHIV wants SMART to do. Now I want to hear what everyone else has to say.

Thanks.

 

28 views and no comments! Come on guys, tell me something. Why should I go with XEDE rather than one of the others.

 

have al flash it

 

I have no experience with any of them except the xede. I find the xede is really easy to use and understand. Also, it keeps the safety of the stock ecu and the knock sensor.

 

My advice is to pick the one that you can get support for locally. Pick a good tuner near to you that you can get to easily and use the system that he is most familiar with. Another option is the UTEC.

All this said I have a XEDE - recommend it highly and my car has more modifications than what you are intending to use it for. Might want to get rid of the intake though - if you do a search you'll see that a couple people Shiv and Al included don't recommend.

 

AEM vs Autronic vs XEDE
exactly!!!!

 

All the programmable systems you mentioned will require some degree of tuning to dial-in. Especially with your set-up. However, it is the only the XEDE that is unlikely to damage your engine during the time your set-up is untuned. This is due to all the failsafes and safety systems (SMART fuel, SMART timing, factory knock control, etc,.) that will always be active. Just my 2c,
Shiv

 

Locally, none of the above. Within 3 - 5 hours...the Autronic and the AEM.

 

Go with Xede, and dont look for anyone to "Flame" anyone else out, as that is not what this site is for! We all have nice things to say about all the stuff, but to help "you" decide, I dont think its appropriate to slam one product over another to help you be happy with your choice! I like the Xede, have always had it, heard Dynoflash is good, and also heard AEM is good.

Am I helping you out?

 

I wasn't asking for flames, just thought I might get a few. I'm trying to decide which is the most fool proof and easier to use. (IE which is the most "ninjadoc" proof! )

 

With your mods, you would be crazy to go with a full stand-alone EMS. Stock turboed cars just don't need it. If you decide against the Xede for some reason, I'd recommend you get a SAFC before a full stand-alone system.

Also, Autronic is great but does not even come with a knock sensor. For that reason alone, DO NOT GET IT.

One thing you always see people say is that once you get a big turbo, you really need an AEM EMS or some other full stand alone computer. Shiv, IE Evo and a few others have already proven that the Xede can easily handle all sizes of the Garrett 30R turbo. Shiv also successfully ran a 35R in his car but only one other has tried that I know. He self destructed before sorting out his minor issues.

I'm hoping to test the limits of the Xede. My biggest concern was with idle but that turned out to be as smooth as silk. My next concern is HP loss using a 3" intake and the stock maf. I feel that at some point, I will overrun the MAF. But if that point doesn't happen until 575whp on a dynojet I'll consider that a huge success, as I'm not looking to squeeze every last pony out of it. I just want a super powerfull car with tons of torque.

We'll see soon enough...

 

AEM
The only way

 

HAve you ever heard of MoTec?????? that would be my number one!

 

My friends and i all run xedes in our cars.. ranging from double stock hp to 350 hp. Regardless of mods the xede will work with it. I just started messing with some of the new features.. no lift shift is pretty tight. and the launch control builds like 12 lbs of boost on the line. What i like most about teh xede and the vishnu approach is that new features are added all the time, and they all work with the same xede i bought almost 2 years ago. Shiv is always making new upgrades for it and most of them are free.

 

I would say the most fool-proof would be the Xede, as I think you have to tune the AEM when the weather changes, which I believe requires it to go to a tuner. I think the ones to answer this would be either:
A: Smogrunner
B: A tuner who has expierence with all the above.

What the people above have as far as tuning goes, they will say its the BEST, so this would be a tough one to answer. unless a person has used all on the same car, with the same setup. I'm not making much sence, its time for me to go to bed!