Vishnu fellas,

Is there going to be anyway to have launch control, and still be able to shift without the rev limit in place? there a way to use the MPH sensor/wire instead of the clutch? where say, the rev limit will be in place at something like >5mph?

I believe the launch control works great, but the NLS isn't much for me(too sensative).

Discuss.

-Jeff-

 

That's how DSMLink worked.... You could actually configure different RPM setting for both LC and NLTS. You could also configure what speed you wanted that limit to activate and deactivate.

I would like to have a lower LC limit than NTLS limit.

 

My TMO modified ECU on my 94 Talon also had seperate RPM settings. I believe that is the best way to go. I had my launch control set at 5,000 RPM and the no lift shift setting at 6,000 RPM.

 

The launch control works off of a ground/non-ground switch. So, I dont think there would be anyway to do it off of the vehical speed sensor.

 

It actually depends on what kind of output the VSS provides. If it's a standard 0-5v output, it could be used as in input for launch control. Just another step in the logic flow.

shiv

 

Shiv, repeating the question I post earlier. When will you have the program for launch control feature that will not take up a map.

 

FYI, you can do all of these things with the AEM EMS. You can also use true Anti-Lag for launching at full boost.

EVOlutionary

 

Alright hey thats great and all, but I bought an xede and most of us are not going to go out and pop down another 1600 bucks for something we basically already have.

Shiv won't disappoint Im sure within a few weeks /months well have that stuff too; oh and we'll still have our daily drivability without having to have a degree in tuning.

/end rant

 

..And slow startup and crappy drivability due to lame base maps.
Why not go tell people in the AEM forum who care? Everyone here has XEDEs already.

 

Noise,
You are such a hard as$ stud. I love it when you talk tough.

 

Back to the topic at hand...

Shiv, is that something you could test out? PLEASE. I can't stand the NLS but i would like to have the launch rev limiter. Any way to set it up without using the clutch switch?

 

Maybe you would have to have a second variable as annother control. If the VSS is 0 to +5VDC you might have to make a second catch that the input from clutch switch is open/closed what ever the "correct" condition is and then a check of VSS voltage is <.1VDC or some crazy logic like that. Can you do that in an Xede.. I don't know. But you could have a seperate controll board that was able to take the 2 variables and have one of two output as open/closed that would then feed the Xede the same input and the Xede would only use the NLTS/Launch controll when the "other" controll gives it the "corrected" input.


Sounds like someone has a special project to me.


Logic (or lack of)

VSS 0 - +5VDC (A)
clutch I/O (B)
NLTS/Launch output I/O (C)

If (A<.1, B=I) I (C)
If (A<.1, B=O) O (C)
If (A>.1) O (C)

Something like that.

 

I understand that most everyone here has the XEDE, just as I had gone the flash/reflash route before I chose the EMS. I finally got to the point where I wanted more adjustability and control so even though I had much $$ wrapped up in flashing and reflashing my stock ECU I decided to make the leap.

I do agree that when not properly tuned the power and driveability of the EMS are not as good as stock. After having it tuned properly, though, I challenge anyone to tell the difference from stock (even with the HKS 280 cams). The car idles like stock, accel and decel are as stock, wot power delivery is better than stock. As mentioned above the only sign that the ECU is not stock is that it takes about 5 revolutions for the engine to fire on startup, compared to the 1 that it took with the stock ECU. As soon as it fires it idles fine even on 40 degree mornings (coldest I've seen so far). We will see how it does on -10 mornings this winter.

I do apologize if I stepped on any toes or upset any die-hard XEDE fans. I just noticed that someone was wanting the same features that lead me to the EMS and I figured I would mention it, just in case he has not looked into that option. Never said it was better than XEDE, just that it had the options the gentleman was looking for.

FWIW, I know Shiv is a great tuner and his products work wonders. My buddy's National Championship winning ESP class Solo II car was tuned by Shiv, and that car makes amazing power for the limited modifications it has.

EVOlutionary

 

I realize what the EMS has to offer....but for right now, i want to try to massage Shiv's brain and see what we can do with what we have.

We got a launch control/NLS feature out of him, but i think he can do better. I wanna see it.

And the anti-lag on the EMS is bad as hell.....nothing like shotgun blasts out of the tailpipe.

Come on Shiv, whats the word on this? Any way of using the speed sensor to activate/deactivate the rev limiter?

-Jeff-

 

It would take a good deal of work. IE: figuring out what signal the speed sensor produces, finding room to put that into the xede, if you already have a smart system, and then of course making the flow logic work. If someone can see what signal the speed sensor produces, that will put us one step ahead of the game. This isnt something we have on our development list, but with your guys help we can probably squeeze it in.