Isn't That Lean?
#301
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i wouldnt touch the timing tables at all! if you want to add more fuel to the base maps well thats fine but dont touch the timing tables unless you have a device to monitor knock!
i asked in another thread if i could zero out the timing tables for the 100oct maps but i would be using vp109 which has a higher octane just to be safe.
i asked in another thread if i could zero out the timing tables for the 100oct maps but i would be using vp109 which has a higher octane just to be safe.
#302
Originally Posted by jrsimon27
i wouldnt touch the timing tables at all! if you want to add more fuel to the base maps well thats fine but dont touch the timing tables unless you have a device to monitor knock!
i asked in another thread if i could zero out the timing tables for the 100oct maps but i would be using vp109 which has a higher octane just to be safe.
i asked in another thread if i could zero out the timing tables for the 100oct maps but i would be using vp109 which has a higher octane just to be safe.
There is a sticky thread in this forum that shows you how to create a race map. It is pretty simple and is in line with what my custom 100 octane map has. You basically map the AFR a bit leaner, zero out the timing and set the boost to around 24 psi which is the maximum w/o the xede flash.
#303
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Originally Posted by nj1266
I have the knock buffer and it does not log any large spikes. I will get the Tactrix cable soon and I will be able to log the knock sum. That will give me a good idea about the timing. What I have noticed from the base maps is that timing is pretty safe. The timing on Shiv's 93 octane base map is slightly more retarded than the timing on my custom 91 octane map.
There is a sticky thread in this forum that shows you how to create a race map. It is pretty simple and is in line with what my custom 100 octane map has. You basically map the AFR a bit leaner, zero out the timing and set the boost to around 24 psi which is the maximum w/o the xede flash.
There is a sticky thread in this forum that shows you how to create a race map. It is pretty simple and is in line with what my custom 100 octane map has. You basically map the AFR a bit leaner, zero out the timing and set the boost to around 24 psi which is the maximum w/o the xede flash.
#304
Originally Posted by jrsimon27
thanks nj yeah in the sticky forums it says that if you use race gas you ca zero out the timing table. what afr do you recommend to use for 109 racegas?
#306
Originally Posted by razorlab
Do you know this from experience or something you read?
#308
Originally Posted by razorlab
I'm just saying be careful about taking other peoples writings as gospel.
#309
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Originally Posted by nj1266
I appreciate what you are saying, but I have been in touch with jrs through pm and know the AFR and the set-up he is running. Out of curiousity what AFR would your run with 109 octane gas?
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Originally Posted by Spec'd
Any logs for us razorlab ?
Maybe just a mini one.
Maybe just a mini one.
Here is the dyno AFR, I since tuned out the small dip in the middle and a also made it a tad richer up top (11.2):
![](http://www.norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/dyno/010706/100octaneTuneAFR_dynochart02.jpg)
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Thanks for posting that.
I like nice conservative tunes even on 100.
I'm usually concerned about EGTs , even when knock
isn't a problem. I thought higher octane gas was
supposed to run cooler.
If that is true it sure doesn't seem to make a difference
in my EGT logs when comparing 93 to 100 octane.
Question:
Do you prefer dyno tuning over road tuning ?
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I like nice conservative tunes even on 100.
I'm usually concerned about EGTs , even when knock
isn't a problem. I thought higher octane gas was
supposed to run cooler.
If that is true it sure doesn't seem to make a difference
in my EGT logs when comparing 93 to 100 octane.
Question:
Do you prefer dyno tuning over road tuning ?
Last edited by Spec'd; Aug 14, 2006 at 12:38 PM.