Stage 1+ with 10.5 housing and test-pipe
[QUOTE=Jaylenospoolboy]You've got a few choices;
I think Smog made 273 hp w/ a stage 1+ on 91 w/ test pipe (?).
Ethan made 295 whp on 91 octane w/ a titanium turbo stage 1 plus. I think the ti turbo cost as much as an ATP kit to install, maybe $3000 installed.
Vishnu also ran an ATP 3037 on 91 octane, stage one plus to 305 whp, 356 on 98 octane. Both with test pipe. 3037 can push more, but stock manifold maxes out at 6800 rpm and the power drops off 'til redline. Same cost as 3071. ATP kits laggier than stock w/ 3071 and 3037 rumored to spool very similarly.
I am kinda suprised the 3037 only made 30 whp more on pump gas. Sounds like the ti is the way to go for pump gas. Can Vishnu verify this.
Phil
I think Smog made 273 hp w/ a stage 1+ on 91 w/ test pipe (?).
Ethan made 295 whp on 91 octane w/ a titanium turbo stage 1 plus. I think the ti turbo cost as much as an ATP kit to install, maybe $3000 installed.
Vishnu also ran an ATP 3037 on 91 octane, stage one plus to 305 whp, 356 on 98 octane. Both with test pipe. 3037 can push more, but stock manifold maxes out at 6800 rpm and the power drops off 'til redline. Same cost as 3071. ATP kits laggier than stock w/ 3071 and 3037 rumored to spool very similarly.
I am kinda suprised the 3037 only made 30 whp more on pump gas. Sounds like the ti is the way to go for pump gas. Can Vishnu verify this.
Phil
FWIW I paid under $1300 for the TD05HRA-16G6-9.8t, 10.5 turbine housing, O2 housing, and Stainless header.. Installation is IDENTICAL to stock, therefore your looking 6-8 hours of labor.. so your looking around $2000 total for parts and install. This is significantly less than any other solution and that INCLUDES installation (although my quote for labor is a guestimate)
Also keep in mind that every aftermarket turbo kit requires some level of modification and adaptation, so the installation time may be 2-3x's that of swapping an OE replacement setup.. plus the cost of the kit itself.. I think the Ti Turbo with 10.5 housing is a HELL Of a good option for a street driven setup.
Also, any other modifications you make to improve the efficiency of the intake, exhaust, head, etc.. will make good improvements with this turbo setup. Also, should you upgrade the turbo to another kit in the future, those modifications will have an even bigger payoff.
The housing installation is actually pretty easy, but it does require removing the turbo and "Cracking" the turbo open (removing the vband clamp holding the two sections together) and reassembling also likely some cleaning and other touch-up to prevent leaks. I definitely recommend having someone do it for you (such as Vishnu since they've done this already) since you need to reassemble it correctly and use the correct thread-lock to keep the clamp happy and tight.
Also keep in mind that every aftermarket turbo kit requires some level of modification and adaptation, so the installation time may be 2-3x's that of swapping an OE replacement setup.. plus the cost of the kit itself.. I think the Ti Turbo with 10.5 housing is a HELL Of a good option for a street driven setup.
Also, any other modifications you make to improve the efficiency of the intake, exhaust, head, etc.. will make good improvements with this turbo setup. Also, should you upgrade the turbo to another kit in the future, those modifications will have an even bigger payoff.
The housing installation is actually pretty easy, but it does require removing the turbo and "Cracking" the turbo open (removing the vband clamp holding the two sections together) and reassembling also likely some cleaning and other touch-up to prevent leaks. I definitely recommend having someone do it for you (such as Vishnu since they've done this already) since you need to reassemble it correctly and use the correct thread-lock to keep the clamp happy and tight.
Last edited by MalibuJack; Sep 10, 2004 at 08:07 PM.
I'm kinda skeptical of actually picking up a full 20whp with the titanium turbo on 93, but if it does, I'll be tickled pink. 305whp on pump gas would freaking rock! 325-330whp with race gas is knocking on the door of 11s with an XEDE and a 16G while retaining the stock MAF and airbox. I'd love to be the first to do this! Unless Evan gets to a track before me, of course.
Originally Posted by Noize
I'm kinda skeptical of actually picking up a full 20whp with the titanium turbo on 93, but if it does, I'll be tickled pink. 305whp on pump gas would freaking rock! 325-330whp with race gas is knocking on the door of 11s with an XEDE and a 16G while retaining the stock MAF and airbox. I'd love to be the first to do this! Unless Evan gets to a track before me, of course.
Originally Posted by eazyevo
The guy that made 307whp on 94 octane with the 10.5 housing, did he have the stock o2 housing ?
Well that is true but what about 94 as that is what I have. Being as pump gas is mostly what I run I am just wondering if it is really that much of a difference on pump gas from the stock turbo. I hate to get a turbo then feel like I have to run race gas all the time.
Phil
Phil
Originally Posted by Noize
I'm kinda skeptical of actually picking up a full 20whp with the titanium turbo on 93, but if it does, I'll be tickled pink. 305whp on pump gas would freaking rock! 325-330whp with race gas is knocking on the door of 11s with an XEDE and a 16G while retaining the stock MAF and airbox. I'd love to be the first to do this! Unless Evan gets to a track before me, of course.
Originally Posted by Noize
I'm kinda skeptical of actually picking up a full 20whp with the titanium turbo on 93, but if it does, I'll be tickled pink. 305whp on pump gas would freaking rock! 325-330whp with race gas is knocking on the door of 11s with an XEDE and a 16G while retaining the stock MAF and airbox. I'd love to be the first to do this! Unless Evan gets to a track before me, of course.







