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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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DSMMOTORSPORTS,

The pics that you posted shows the blue nozzle directly in the path of suction of the BOV. Definately it could affect the flow whenever the BOV opens and closes, dont you think!!

Also, don't you think the nozzle is way far from the Throtle body butterfly(inatke manifold)?
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Carlos, why are you thinking of aftermarket intake mani? just drill and tap the stock one and you are ready to go if u want to go 4 jets
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Trevor found that 2 smaller nozzles works better than a big one, we just spoke about that the other day at the track. better atomization
Abner,

That is exactly one of the topics that I opened under alcohol tunning. I mentioned that before, I think that installing two nozzles instead of one would give you better mixture and cooling features. I am really thinking about doing that.

I must talk to Trevor first. That guys running his system for 5 years and no a single issue gives me a lot of respect
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Carlos, why are you thinking of aftermarket intake mani? just drill and tap the stock one and you are ready to go if u want to go 4 jets
YTou still have to completely remove the entire manifold. The moment you start drilling the intake manifold then you have aluminium particles falling over inside the engine.

I am definately up on this, if you want we can talk to a local shop and ask some prices. I think this project could be very reliable and super efficient.

I am very very convinced of the advantages of multiple nozzles installed on the manifold. Trevors monster car is a good example.

Your car with a 4% bigger/better flow yield you a bunch of extra whp, remember?

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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO9GRL
YTou still have to completely remove the entire manifold. The moment you start drilling the intake manifold then you have aluminium particles falling over inside the engine.

I am definately up on this, if you want we can talk to a local shop and ask some prices. I think this project could be very reliable and super efficient.
Saikou Kun here heads the machine shop at our work place. If you talk to him nicely, he will sure be able to do something for you

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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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As I mentioned before, the issue here is that it is a very inexpensive project and it can always be retrofitted to original condition. If you don't like the holes in the manifold you can always put plugs after all.

I will definately consult with the metals technologies at work. By the way, when do you want me to sign you up to show you the installations Abner?
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO9GRL
I am very very convinced of the advantages of multiple nozzles installed on the manifold. Trevors monster car is a good example.
On Trevors red car, he has 2 staggered horizontally opposing 7GPh nozzle couple of inches away from his intake mani. Hey ask him to sign up on EvoM and teach us all REAL alcohol injection. Big jets for making big power
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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I think he already cruises on evolutionm since I showed him the forum a few months ago.

You can also find him on www.sonoranmusclecars.com under trevor name(user id). Remember, he also has a nother Twin Turbo car that runs also with alcohol.

Abner pm sent, what is the plan for today?
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO9GRL
DSMMOTORSPORTS,

The pics that you posted shows the blue nozzle directly in the path of suction of the BOV. Definately it could affect the flow whenever the BOV opens and closes, dont you think!!

Also, don't you think the nozzle is way far from the Throtle body butterfly(inatke manifold)?
That blue nozzle is spraying only nitrous oxide on my car, not methanol. nitrous oxide, when used in a dry kit can be sprayed anywhere as it will naturally disperse evenly no matter what the nozzle size, orientation, direction ect.

I was just using the picture as referance to how that nozzle was installed (from outside) and it's size/shape ext. Definatly not a good idea to put a meth nozzle before the bov if you plan to lift off the throttle when you shift. At best it will make an underhood mess, at worst a car fire.
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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i got 2 pieces of the axial mounts left. If anyone is using the stock UICP, thses are specially made for it. PM me and i'll send it to u.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/at...chmentid=80169
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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Abner, this is a clear idea of what I am trying to explain. Instead of nozzles for NOS use the same weldings for Alcohol/methanol


http://www.roadraceengineering.com/e..._nxplumbed.jpg
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Abner, this is a clear idea of what I am trying to explain. Instead of nozzles for NOS use the same weldings for Alcohol/methanol


http://www.roadraceengineering.com/e..._nxplumbed.jpg
This is the most ideal situation method to deliver your anti-detonant, each cylinder gets the same amount. Be the 1st evo here to have direct port alky injection
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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I'm not a physicist but when you think about it, especially if using H2O, whatever solvent is not in a gas form but in a vapor/mist is the most dense, and compared to the gases, will be the most likley to travel in a straight line and collect somewhere like the #4. I'm sure this effect is proportional to the lack of atomization.

I guess once atomization is achieved homogenation is then required
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