Abner!!
Thank you so much for the PM! This looks like another amazing set-up. So how is this compared to the previous set-up you had?
(I havent had time to go through the whole thread so if I missed something I apologize)
Mitch Mckee

 

Hey buddy! Whats up?

this kit due to the high flow rate, has more potential

you been making more fast cars in AZ, faster?

 

I am a bit late to this thread.
Very nice system. I got a different one to install in the next few weeks.

One question on yours. With those parts inside the intercooler pipe, like the meth line, and jet, and the devise support brackets, isn't this adding a restriction to the airflow? I would think it creates turbulence before entering the intake manifold!
Thats alot of parts inside the 2.5 diameter pipe.

 

some form of turbulance is good because it helps to to churn the air/meth mixture. I dont think there is any significant restriction as air is compressible....

26psig at 3200rpm - i think its pretty free flowing

 

You are tricked into thinking it's restrictive and that you need larger diameters for everything - selling aftermarket IC ducting and exhaust is BIG buisness.

Hell, with stock catback piping (muffler flapper removed though) and stock IC/plumbing/turbo on a 04, 315whp/wtq on Mustang dyno on methanol with 23psi is no problem. I doubt I would see any gains by installing $2000 worth of exhaust and IC parts either.

Hope not too many people read this - bad for the economy

 

i am reading this and looking overhead in the space above the cleanroom, there are 3 X 1/4" stainless steel tubing carrying H2, N2 and Ar @120psig....skinny tubing, but they can flow enough process gas to operate several deposition chambers, each requiring several SLM (standard liters per minute) flow

 

C-17 bleed air ducting can be as small as 2.5" diameter in some places for routing 300F air at pressures well beyond 100psi, and many times the flow rate as my turbo.

 

Guys, it is cool. If you think there is no restriction and airflow turbulence created by those parts inside the pipe, fine.
I guess bigger pipes, bigger free flow exhausts, parts porting, extrude honeing, bigger intercooler with large end tanks, etc. is all a waste of time. If a 3/4 inch pipe can flow 100 psi, then it must be ok.
It is your system, if you think is good, then .

 

Some of those things that you've mentioned can be a waste of time if your particuliar engine combo doesn't need it. Again bigger isn't always better when it comes to performance.

 

Engine combo?

* Larger diameter intercooler pipes are allways better even on mild moded turbo cars. They are a basic upgrade. The lower pipe alone will give an Evo 10 to 15 Hp near stock.

* Free flowing exhaust is allways one of the first mods done to a turbo car. A good 10 to 20 HP on a swap from stock.

* An ported 02 housing or exhaust manifold will help spool the turbo faster and will also add another 10 to 15 HP to a near stock Evo.

* Extrude honing is pretty expensive, but if you can fork out the money, you will gain some serious HP by even just doing the stock ported manifold and intake manifold. 10 to 20 HP gain to a basic set up.

* Bigger intercooler will help on hot days and on a stock turbo, will also gain HP. The larger end tanks help with the quicker flow.

In conclution, the parts I posted all help gain power stock or more modified.

Some other mods such as 4 angle valve jobs, ported heads, up graded pistons and such would be a waste of time if your car is basically stock. But no where in my post I mentioned those parts.

The parts I mentioned, will all gain power and are not a waste of time at any engine modification stage.

 

As I mentioned "some of the things you mentioned" could be a waste of time. "my engine combo" is very mild. I'm running a stock air box, stock cams, stock turbo with a 10.5 hotside, ported exhaust manifold, ported stock O2 housing, 2.75 downpipe with a 3" cat and 3" catback. So I'm fully aware of what these modifications can do. I disagree with extrude honing and the big intercooler as an option for a mild set up. I've been there and done that with my previous Mitsus in the past 16 years. So the bottom line is that every modification has it's place, that's all.

 

Ok.

But I would like to point out something that you mentioned: You "have have been there and done that in previous Mitsus in the last 16 years", but it looks like you are not there yet with your current almost stock Evo.
On the other hand, I also have been working on Mitsus for the last 16 years, and as you can see, my Evo is a little more advanced mod wise, power wise and everything else.

So I speak about the Evo from personal experience. Having spended hundreds in dyno testing, ECU tuning and proven parts.

Did you know that an Ebay 02 housing is much efficient than a ported stock 02 housing? That it is better to use a 3 inch down pipe than a 2.75 inch down pipe. That an after market air intake such as Injen, HKS, and even a drop in K&N filter is better than using a stock air box?

You went down the wrong path. And now, are here trying to tell us the right way to do it!
Think about it!

I am going to leave this alone. The thread allready went of course. I am sorry.

 

O.K. you're the man . I do agree with you're last statement and you're absolutely correct, let's get this thread back on topic. Sorry Abner that you're thread became so de-railed.

 

Hey Joe, its all good!

 

Oh boy . Hey, what size accumlator did you settle on with your set-up?