bringing this back from the dead for more info.

Some one else has to have tried this stuff since.

 

I've been using it for about 1 month. I started with a 60/40/10mix. Felt an actual loss in power. I stepped it up to a 98M%2%NM mix...just felt like regular 100%M mix.
For about a week been using 95%M 5%NM. Definite difference, nice strong pulls.

Just got another order of meth/nitrometh mix. My final mix that i am willing to touch will be 87%meth 13%nitrometh. I got my failsafes in place(zeitronix,aquamist,jackoftrades)and generally keep the a/fs at around 12.6-.7. I may run around 12.2-.4 depending on how the knock is with the 13% nitrometh.

Side note. Plugs are fouled and they are about 2months old, never had them go out this soon. Could be a result of nitrometh...who knows.

 

Im currently using the M5 VP methonal 95% meth 5% nitro. My current mix is
50% water 47.5% meth 2.5% nitro. I use the Aquamist pump not the shurflow.
I have been using this since the middle of June with no failures! A shurflow pump will not last with nitro! My 2D Aquamist kit shows no problems, I think due to the low amount.

I love this stuff as it works great! In my IX; Im running 8* at peak tq on 91oct @ 31 psi, NO KNOCK!!!!

The first thing I noticed when I mixed it and put it in my tank, it started to expand a lot, so I had to make a hole in my cap so it wouldnt expand to much. It was apparent that the extra oxygen from the nitro was causing this expansion.

According to data log lab I gained with tuning 15-20 tq midrange over normal M1 meth/water. WHP was 12-17 whp more up top 6-9k RPM.
(I think in combo with the cosi M3's and the extra air they work so well together ). I would post up the logs but Im not on my laptop but my work computer.

I will continue to run this for the gains until I see a side effect that makes it not worth it. So far it gets my two thumbs up

Evan Smith

 

While this is encouraging, the math does not support such results. I can't find the thread now, but there was another thread where Richard L calculated the theoretical effect that Nitro would have and 2.5% nitro did almost nothing. Considering that 2.5% nitro in the tank would be less than .5% considering the gasoline you are injecting into the motor.

Its odd, I have heard more than one person claim to have gained 10-15 hp from adding a very small amount of meth. I just don't get how thats possible. I'm not in any way saying that you are lying. There must be something that produces power that we have not accounted for.

The primary benifit of nitro is the additional 02....not its knock protection.

I am really just gonna have to buy some of this stuff and give it a try.

 

^^^ 5% seems to be the same for both of us, however with water in my mix it can have different effects with mixes.


Yesterday I checked my plugs as I was having a miss fire issue. I found them to be a perfect brown and no hint of pre-det. I regapped them from .26 to .22 no probs after that.

 

I understand exactly what you mean, and my results are in no way factual on a mustang dyno but in fact data log lab, which could only show a result of 5-10 whp-tq gains on a real dyno. Which to me makes a worth while difference so far.

The water is my knock protection and in my mix allows me to run my high timing numbers with big cams and big boost. The nitro is purly for more air= more power. My fault for not being more clear.

Just have back up pump seals to rebuild your pump, this is a small amount though so it might take a while to take an effect. Good luck!

 

I didn't know the 2.5% fully disolves in the 50/47.5% mix. Aquamist uses shurflo pumps, modified, but still shurflo.

I'm gapped at .22, i'll check a fresh set.

 

Where have you guys been getting nitro by the way.

If I try it I will probably just try 90/10 meth/nitro

I figure this way the differences should be large enough to be measureable.

 

It doesnt disolve Im saying because I have 50% water and you dont our results will vary.

Aquamist does use shurflo pumps... I know, but I have a 2 D aquamist system that uses a Aquamist Race pump NOT a shurflo. Much better than a shurflo IMO.


I get mine from a local VP dealer.

 

I order from http://fhsoils.com/ i call it in. They ship next day from Clover, SC. Takes about 2 days. Prices are decent. I order in 1Gal increments.(x4 quart bottles) you can call tollfree (803) 222-7488

80M/20NM 1Gal mix = about $55dollars shipped. Not cheap, but it lasts a good while if you're mixing properly. Gonna go through a good amount tuning of course. but once you have your mix and set up. $55/$70 for 55%NM/45%M mix could last easily 3 months which works out to be about $23 a month.

Oh Ok, you have the race pump. I don't expect my pump to last long(brand new 1 week old) on the Nitrometh and don't plan on using it for prolonged periods of time. Just gotta find a good site to purchase the internals.

 

Im sure Richard or Abner (Slowcar) will know where to get new seals as thats what wears out the fastest.

 

Most provide sites that are vague per what really need to be purchased. i have disassembled hte shurflo pump many times down to the magnetic coil. I heard that parts for a rebuild typically run about 30bux

Also, my break up issue was due to the plugs being done...per my logs, i installed my new copper plugs on 7/14 just 1 month later...i needed a fresh set. My gap is and has been for awhile, 0.022" so it wasn't a gapping issue.

 

Do you buy it pre-mixed from these guys? It seems like it would be MUCH cheaper to just buy pure nitro and mix it yourself. Meth is usually around $5 a gallon, seems like $50 is a lot for .2 a gallon of nitro.

 

I would buy it straight but don't have any good sources. Last place i purchased from was a rip off. Alfa Ceaser something like that..way over the top.
If you can find a place that sells it 100/98% i'll buy it at a good price


And yes, I buy it premixed in quart bottles.
Jeff

 

12%Nitromix was is SICK!...still advancing timing. Currently at 28psi spike to 23@redline car is pulling hard. A/Fs around 12.3/4...