Adding Ice to Meth Tank.
the latent heat of vaporization - from a transformation of liquid/gaseous state will make the cool/cold WA temperature very insignificant
hahahaha, I'm not so sure about that. While I love HP, I also like the pursuit of power through increased efficiency. If I already have the Meth kit installed and I can gain power by simply cooling the liquid then why not. I like trying to get power out of as few parts as possible.
94AWDcoupe - thanks for the more technical explanation. I was looking for some kind of scientific info
Do you have any equations or math to back up this statement though?
94AWDcoupe - thanks for the more technical explanation. I was looking for some kind of scientific info
Do you have any equations or math to back up this statement though?
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Waste of time...better off making mixtures of 100% vs 70/30 vs 50/50...
cooling meth from 30degs is like warming up a match before you strike it.
It's gonna burn, however, it wont make a difference like if you were stabalizing a Nitrous tank temps with a heater.
cooling meth from 30degs is like warming up a match before you strike it.
It's gonna burn, however, it wont make a difference like if you were stabalizing a Nitrous tank temps with a heater.
I dont see why it wouldnt pick up a few hp especially if you refrigerated 100% meth. Hell i see guy putting bags of ice on intakes and spraying intercoolers with NO2 before they even get to the staging lanes. Many people do this. Let us know how it works out.
that's cooling metals...cooling a liquid that evaporates/mists...would help a touch however ...it wouldn't be worth the effort.
Cooling your mixture down before a track day seems like it could have a slight positive effect but ice cubes seems really sketchy. That would change the mixture even if you measured out the water you were adding to the mixture then froze it since the ice cubes would have to melt to add the correct amount of water. Testing it out on a dyno might be interesting.
Considering the car is tuned with the specific mixture in mind of the methanol, adding water to it is changing the chemical make up, therefore making it run a leaner mixture of methanol.
Cooling the mix will have negligible benefits, its not as if you are changing the density of the air. By the time it reaches the cylinders it'll already be heated anyways, and its not the same as cooling the air to make it more dense.
Think about it this way, if this was beneficial, wouldn't we have fuel coolers being used?
Cooling the mix will have negligible benefits, its not as if you are changing the density of the air. By the time it reaches the cylinders it'll already be heated anyways, and its not the same as cooling the air to make it more dense.
Think about it this way, if this was beneficial, wouldn't we have fuel coolers being used?
Personally I find the idea to be very interesting. It makes sense, but as was already stated, I don't think the gains would be substantial due to the fact that you aren't changing phases it still remains as a liquid. Therefore the difference between 33 and 80 degrees is negligable because it is still a liquid. All in all I like the idea but feel that's the gains would be slim. On that note I do think it would have other advantages over regular temp meth.
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I honestly wouldn't suggest doing that due to fueling differences that could be caused with the ice. Also because the ice isn't going to help out anyways, the meth helps becuase it is a higher octane then regular fuel and its evaporating/burn temp is much much lower. Adding ice would just be a good way to end up with a fueling problem and make no difference at all.