How Meth Made My Car Fun Again
Meth is indeed a good thing.
Here's my dyno sheet on an EVO8 with just Megan headers, TBE, AMS LICP and 10.5 hotside on Meth. NO other mods were added to the car from before Meth to after Meth. 76whp/73wtq gain!!
I am VERY afraid of a failure in the system even though I have the Snow Performance SafeInjection. I'll probably garage the car most of the time...
-M
Here's my dyno sheet on an EVO8 with just Megan headers, TBE, AMS LICP and 10.5 hotside on Meth. NO other mods were added to the car from before Meth to after Meth. 76whp/73wtq gain!!
I am VERY afraid of a failure in the system even though I have the Snow Performance SafeInjection. I'll probably garage the car most of the time...
-M
Last edited by BOOSTEZ; Oct 17, 2007 at 07:03 PM.
Also...what boost level? what size nozzle? what stage snow kit?
Failsafe, I think and have heard that the aquamist failsafe setup is much better than the snow unit. What does the snow unit do again when it shows that there is a problem?
Very nice power for an 03 without cams
+1 on Q's...
Also...what boost level? what size nozzle? what stage snow kit?
Failsafe, I think and have heard that the aquamist failsafe setup is much better than the snow unit. What does the snow unit do again when it shows that there is a problem?
Very nice power for an 03 without cams
Also...what boost level? what size nozzle? what stage snow kit?
Failsafe, I think and have heard that the aquamist failsafe setup is much better than the snow unit. What does the snow unit do again when it shows that there is a problem?
Very nice power for an 03 without cams
the snow failsafe (if hooked up to a proper solenoid valve) will cut your boost when it detects a failure.
The only issue is how well the safe injection really reads the flow. Unlike the DDS3 you can not adjust your "safety window" when you buy the safe injection there is a low flow and a high flow model with the windows already pre-configured to the size of the nozzle.
Also unlike Richard, snow does not divulge much info about their safe injection system. I don't even think they will tell you what the exact max and min flow is for each safe injection model. They also don't say if there is a delay built in or how quickly the safe injection responds to changes in flow.
Lastly, without a gauge it is really difficult to see how the snow safe injection really works as the meth is spraying.
When I was deciding which kit to go with, I spoke with the people at snow a lot about how their safe injection works and basically it came down to them saying "trust us, we know what we are doing, it will work" Where as Richard has documentation to show all of his testing and is more than willing to share his results and will post up elaborate diagrams of how things work on the aquamist kits
Last edited by dudical26; Oct 17, 2007 at 04:47 PM.
Before run was on 91 octane and it was indeed tuned.
No but temps where pretty close 93F before Meth...and about 85F after Meth.
100% meth.
Was that the same day?
What mixture do you run?
Last edited by BOOSTEZ; Oct 17, 2007 at 05:29 PM.
26psi. I don't know the exact size but the kit came with 3 sizes.. my tuner used the smallest size.
Probably so, but I got what I got. The Snow kit has a module that monitors flow through the meth line. If there is a disruption, it will send a signal to a solenoid that will bring boost back to stock. Will it be too slow under a no flow condition? Probably. But I have it nevertheless. I think all the kits are pretty much a big chance. Only a standalone that can monitor AFRs, boost level, and water injection flow is truly failsafe IMO.
Thanks a bunch! 
I'm very proud of my VIII!
Failsafe, I think and have heard that the aquamist failsafe setup is much better than the snow unit. What does the snow unit do again when it shows that there is a problem?
Very nice power for an 03 without cams
I'm very proud of my VIII!
Last edited by BOOSTEZ; Oct 17, 2007 at 05:25 PM.
the snow failsafe (if hooked up to a proper solenoid valve) will cut your boost when it detects a failure.
The only issue is how well the safe injection really reads the flow. Unlike the DDS3 you can not adjust your "safety window" when you buy the safe injection there is a low flow and a high flow model with the windows already pre-configured to the size of the nozzle.
Also unlike Richard, snow does not divulge much info about their safe injection system. I don't even think they will tell you what the exact max and min flow is for each safe injection model. They also don't say if there is a delay built in or how quickly the safe injection responds to changes in flow.
Lastly, without a gauge it is really difficult to see how the snow safe injection really works as the meth is spraying.
When I was deciding which kit to go with, I spoke with the people at snow a lot about how their safe injection works and basically it came down to them saying "trust us, we know what we are doing, it will work" Where as Richard has documentation to show all of his testing and is more than willing to share his results and will post up elaborate diagrams of how things work on the aquamist kits
The only issue is how well the safe injection really reads the flow. Unlike the DDS3 you can not adjust your "safety window" when you buy the safe injection there is a low flow and a high flow model with the windows already pre-configured to the size of the nozzle.
Also unlike Richard, snow does not divulge much info about their safe injection system. I don't even think they will tell you what the exact max and min flow is for each safe injection model. They also don't say if there is a delay built in or how quickly the safe injection responds to changes in flow.
Lastly, without a gauge it is really difficult to see how the snow safe injection really works as the meth is spraying.
When I was deciding which kit to go with, I spoke with the people at snow a lot about how their safe injection works and basically it came down to them saying "trust us, we know what we are doing, it will work" Where as Richard has documentation to show all of his testing and is more than willing to share his results and will post up elaborate diagrams of how things work on the aquamist kits
If I didn't have the snowSTG1 one and was on the market i'd jump on the Aquamist wagon.
I will eventually incorporate the DDS3 monitor and incorporate it into my current zeitronix setup.
26psi. I don't know the exact size but the kit came with 3 sizes.. my tuner used the smallest size.
Probably so, but I got what I got. The Snow kit has a module that monitors flow through the meth line. If there is a disruption, it will send a signal to a solenoid that will bring boost back to stock. Will it be too slow under a no flow condition? Probably. But I have it nevertheless. I think all the kits are pretty much a big chance. Only a standalone that can monitor AFRs, boost level, and water injection flow is truly failsafe IMO.
Thanks a bunch! I'm very proud of my VIII!
Probably so, but I got what I got. The Snow kit has a module that monitors flow through the meth line. If there is a disruption, it will send a signal to a solenoid that will bring boost back to stock. Will it be too slow under a no flow condition? Probably. But I have it nevertheless. I think all the kits are pretty much a big chance. Only a standalone that can monitor AFRs, boost level, and water injection flow is truly failsafe IMO.
Thanks a bunch!
I'm very proud of my VIII!
