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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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I have an 05 so I cant do that
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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he's working on another area of the ecu where are switch can be used. Some where suggesting the ACD button but there is a conflict with that...he's working hard at it.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Or I could buy a cobb tuner which alows switching but Its around $500 .
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoryder
Depends on your tune. Your a/f would probably be off depending on how your car was tuned.

I'm on the stock Ecu, if you search ECU flash...Tephra has a patch that allows you to switch maps like a stand alone ecu. So far this only works with Evo's that come equipped with the intercooler sprayer switch.



I have my meth on point @ 15psi. it's on or off with my snow stg1 kit. My boost high boost is 29psi. Low boost will have no meth. Meth disabled map switched on the fly
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hi boost tune - meth comes on at 15psig, tuned to ~30psig
low boost is WG or 20psig?

how big is nozzle/s?
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowCar
hi boost tune - meth comes on at 15psig, tuned to ~30psig
low boost is WG or 20psig?

how big is nozzle/s?
what do you mean low boost is wastegate or 20psi? MY low boost is 22psi, my wastegate is 14.

Nozzle is 625ml
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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a bit confused here...

is low boost map = hi boost map + turn down boost + turn off meth?

or is low boost map an entirely different map tuned w/o meth from scratch?
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by wizzo 8;
Or I could buy a cobb tuner which alows switching but Its around $500 .

This is interesting, can Cobb switch maps "On the fly"? I have been told sometime in the past from Cobb that may be possible in the near future.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 05:07 AM
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Yea its available now. AMS has used it already. They made a tread about it here.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by wizzo 8
Yea its available now. AMS has used it already. They made a tread about it here.

I know the ap is available now for the evo, but I did not see anything about dynamic map switching, which is what Richard is asking about. Cobb would have to do the same thing the ecuflash guys are working on, that is to say use an "un used" input to the ecu to trigger map switching on the fly based on some user defined criteria.

Another option (the one that I use and works great) is the haltech miniceptor. Retail is about $500 and does on the fly map switching based on an input wire. The miniceptor controls boost (via pid based 2d map), fuel, and timing.

My HFS-V is wired up to the haltech so that if I turn off the HFS or the system failsafes, it will switch maps back to the pump gas map. Works great, one button to push and the haltech and HFS do the rest.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowCar
a bit confused here...

is low boost map = hi boost map + turn down boost + turn off meth?

or is low boost map an entirely different map tuned w/o meth from scratch?
Correct. What language are you reading in? I have been saying that...i think?

i have my ecu patched so I have 2 maps saved that I can switch between without having to connect my laptop + tactrix

I' have a non-meth map @22psi(low boost) Then I have a Race Meth Map @ 29psi (high boost)
When I turn off the meth I have to switch maps to the low boost map. Right now i have to lower boost with my mbc which is boring. I have my meth off switch located in a safe place.

Make sense?

Originally Posted by mad_VIII
I know the ap is available now for the evo, but I did not see anything about dynamic map switching, which is what Richard is asking about. Cobb would have to do the same thing the ecuflash guys are working on, that is to say use an "un used" input to the ecu to trigger map switching on the fly based on some user defined criteria.

Another option (the one that I use and works great) is the haltech miniceptor. Retail is about $500 and does on the fly map switching based on an input wire. The miniceptor controls boost (via pid based 2d map), fuel, and timing.

My HFS-V is wired up to the haltech so that if I turn off the HFS or the system failsafes, it will switch maps back to the pump gas map. Works great, one button to push and the haltech and HFS do the rest.
I will only have to do one more step with my setup soon...
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Switching maps on the fly is one reason I would buy a COBB access port again.
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 07:50 AM
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Just curious so I understand whats being said.

You guys have the ability to get into the factory PCM/ECM and edit maps. You guys can switch between two loaded maps on the fly = no key on/off cycle needed?

You guys have found a circuit on the factory system that will take an input signal from an external device to effect map switching, and the external device can be setup to get another input that can be programmed for low- high thresholds?

Any chance it can be setup so as to switch to the agressive map if the DDS3 is activated and W/A system checks pass?

If I'm all wrong with this (or right for that matter) please post links to the pertinent info on the web.....if external link are not allowed due to a conflict of some sort or another please PM me the info, this is interesting.
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by aqmist
Just curious so I understand whats being said.

You guys have the ability to get into the factory PCM/ECM and edit maps. You guys can switch between two loaded maps on the fly = no key on/off cycle needed?

You guys have found a circuit on the factory system that will take an input signal from an external device to effect map switching, and the external device can be setup to get another input that can be programmed for low- high thresholds?

Any chance it can be setup so as to switch to the agressive map if the DDS3 is activated and W/A system checks pass?

If I'm all wrong with this (or right for that matter) please post links to the pertinent info on the web.....if external link are not allowed due to a conflict of some sort or another please PM me the info, this is interesting.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...10#post5098610

And yes you are pretty much correct. No key on/off cycle...you just have to be under a certain load or basically "cruising" .

You would have to PM "Tephra" and see what he can do...like i said, he's still working on helping the guys with the non-intercooler sprayer setups. The way he has it setup now requires the button to be held down for whatever time period you set it eg "2 secs" then the light will flash intermittently while you're driving to let you know that you're on Map 2.
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by aqmist
You guys have the ability to get into the factory PCM/ECM and edit maps. You guys can switch between two loaded maps on the fly = no key on/off cycle needed?
AFAIK COBB is the only on with the Real Time map feature. You cannot hook it up to the DDS3 (sucks I know), but you can change maps while the car is running (idling, highway cruising) but you need the little hand-held computer or a laptop with Street Tuner software to accomplish this.
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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So to switch maps the 2nd map needs to be uploaded from an external device, I'm confused?

FYI I have not read the posted link yet.
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