Is anybody running this kit on their EVO? How did you install it? Any pics?

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Water / Alcohol Injection KitThe AEM Water / Alcohol Injection Kit is universal by design and adapts to virtually any vehicle via multiple jets to suit your car’s power requirements.

WHY YOU WANT ONE

AEM’s Water / Alcohol Injection Kit reduces air inlet temperatures, which allows you to increase boost pressure and advance timing without having to run higher-octane fuel. It’s like getting to run 100+ octane gas for the price of Premium!

WHY YOU WANT OURS

AEM’s Water / Alcohol Injection Kit includes all the features necessary to do water/alcohol injection right. No hidden costs or optional components are required. Unlike other popular kits on the market, we include a 1 gallon tank with a fluid level sensor standard. Also, because we think engine protection is a requirement, not an option, we include our Boost Safe output in every controller we design. This feature allows you to retard timing or reduce boost if the system runs out of fluid or detects an error. With the AEM Water / Alcohol Injection Kit, you get all the best features in one low priced kit.

HOW IT WORKS

Once installed, the Water / Alcohol Injection Kit uses a boost-dependent, variable-flow progressive controller to determine the amount of water / alcohol mixture (up to 50%) to feed into the inlet stream from the included one-gallon reservoir. The controller commands a progressive 150-PSI pump that delivers the mixture, and flow adjustments at the inlet are made via three included jets designed to match most engine power requirements. The result is significant horsepower gains using pump gas—at about half the cost of Racing Fuel.

OTHER COOL STUFF

You don’t have to worry whether AEM has your application because the Water / Alcohol Injection Kit is designed to be universal for practically any vehicle. It includes everything you need to adapt it to your steed. Critical safety features are integrated into the system to virtually eliminate any chance of failure, including an integral fluid level sensor in the reservoir, a dash light to warn of low fluid level or error codes (including short circuits, battery voltage and more), and an additional output to either decrease ignition timing or boost if the system detects low fluid levels or a system error.



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Product DescriptionPart #PriceWater / Alcohol Injection KitWater/Alcohol Injection Kit
30-3000 $460.95

 

can i persuade you to run a no-nonsense on/off system like these if you have not bought the kit:

-http://coolingmist.com/detailmain.aspx?pid=01250TBF
-http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=6
PLUS a solenoid valve and a good failsafe

or highly capable Aquamist HFS-1 w/ integrated dds3 turbine failsafe system?

 

Has anyone ever asked AEM to define this statement:

if the system runs out of fluid or detects an error

That is a very vague statement. If its just sending a signal when you are out of fluid that can be accomplished with a simple normally open float switch for $20.00.

I will be the first to say I dont know whats involved with the AEM boostsafe option, I would be interested to learn. In particular what errors can it detect other than running out of water.

 

I would assume since it has a low level indicator it must have a float switch. I'm want to see a installed pics too

 

I've been reading these forums for a while and it seems that many many people are biased towards Aquamist. Most every thread started about a system usually ends in one more reason to buy the Aquamist HFS. I think there is a reason why.... because it really is unmatched.

 

I've been running this AEM kit for about a month now... I love it! I previously had a Coolingmist trunkmount kit installed, but got tired and a little nervous about running that kit without a failsafe. Not to dis coolingmist... their kits now are leaps and bounds better and you should consider them if it is the type of setup you're looking for and you have an installer who knows how to install it and tune it. Also, I never had any problems with my 06 EVO MR from the Coolingmist trunk mount kit. However, when I originally purchased the coolingmist kit, there were no such options... about Sep 06. Also, +1 on their customer service.

The AEM kit DOES have a failsafe error output. It can be used two ways. 1) It can be used to trigger another map (or retard timing) if you are using a stand-alone. 2) It can trigger a solenoid that basically will lower your boost pressure. I have the AEM Tru-boost... so if I get an error or low fluid level it will trigger the solenoid and my boost will not go over about 15 psi. Another feature I like is the LED which will blink on/off if there is an error and also goes steady on when the kit is spraying. As far as what errors trigger the failsafe such as low battery, low fluild, short circuit, etc; if something causes a failure I'll get a failsafe trigger. Although, I am unsure if there is anything that would detect and trigger a clogged nozzle failure.

Yes, it has a float switch at the bottom of the tank.

There are some other really great kits with more features than the AEM with more outputs/inputs for MAF. EGT, 2D, 3D mapping, etc. You have a lot of options and quality kits available to you as mentioned above. But, the reason I went with the AEM kit was because it is a pretty "simple" kit with a failsafe and the shop I used to install it knew how to install it correctly. Lastly, I trust the AEM brand (as well as others). Talk to your local shops (see what kits they'll install) and read the water/meth forums before making a decision on buying any kit.

Yes, photos... I will take a few and post shortly...

 

You can always add this turbine based failsafe system for advance clogged nozzle detection:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...light=aquamist

 

yes fimally pics of somebodies setup. where did you mount the tank, pump, and the controller?

 

what do you actually meant by this ^^^

Are you trying to say the kit is no good

 

So Richard it seems like this failsafe system DDS3 can be used with any kit together with the gauge display ??

 

I dont know how critical you are when your AFR is all over the place, progressive pump speed kits like that are unpredictable. Here is a thread to read

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...light=alky+kit

the shurflo pump rotor is too massive to respond to transient changes seen in real world driving. An analogy will be like trying to swing a sledge hammer at a fly...zoom zoom...the fly is gone

 

I got you know

please bear with me i am like a sponge always learning,,, asking 99 questions a second


so i was under the impression that a progressive pump is the way to go,,, i guess it depend how the rest of the system is designed to use that PPS pump.

maybe you or Richard can chime in and write a quick overview of some of the best operating systems, and what to look out for as far as examples like the AEM kit ect...

 

Progressive pump systems are very predictable and can deliver a nice flat A/F curve. Here is a dyno run with our VCS3G controller on an EVO8 MR



The benefit of a PPS is that you get continuous spray from the system and that it is not pulsed. Air Flow is continuous through the throttle body, so you don't want any pauses in injection.

Anyone have an A/F of an aquamist system they care to post?

Best regards,

Dan

 

3rd and 4th street pull



4th dyno pull

 

here is some real good reference material, read it, digest it and ask lots of questions

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=292953