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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Dual Nozzle Question

I have an Aquamist kit in my car. I currently run the largest nozzle with the medium restrictor. I am on stock turbo at 30 psi currently. Is there any benefit if I install the smallest nozzle too? Any info. would be greatly appreciated. If you guys have tried this let me know. Thanks in advance
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Your only going to have improvements if your intake air temps are still high over 100 degs or so at wot.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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more nozzles = better atomization. Go for it.

Why not install two medium size nozzles though. Make the distribution more even.
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 12:47 AM
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You cab place the smaller nozzle before the IC in summer to assist the work load of the IC.

Remove it in winter to prevent and meth condensing in the IC.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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Dudical26 thats what most people believe, because some alcohol injection vendors pushed this upgrade to make more money.

As you can see the smallest nozzle is 18 microns and the largest is 24 micros. Thats pretty close and not going to notice a difference in performance only a lighter pocket book. The standard M series nozzles that most eveyone uses will be simlar to this.

DO1 @ 100PSI 18microns
DO2 @ 100PSI 19microns
DO3 @ 100PSI 19microns
DO4 @ 100PSI 19microns
DO5 @ 100PSI 20microns
DO10 @ 100PSI 23 microns
DO15 @ 100PSI 24 microns
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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thats interesting information. Aside from the particle size of the water/meth droplets, does the fact that half the volume has to be absorbed in each location have any effect?

Even if the same droplets were the same size I would imagine that having the water volume spread out over a large area of induction air would have an effect.

Also in this particular case, the origonal poster is using an aquamist kit, presumably one of the HFS kits which already come with 3 nozzles and the equipment needed to run any two you would like.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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I think a dual nozzle is another good failsafe. If one clogs then at least you got some flow going on.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Devilsown
Dudical26 thats what most people believe, because some alcohol injection vendors pushed this upgrade to make more money.

As you can see the smallest nozzle is 18 microns and the largest is 24 micros. Thats pretty close and not going to notice a difference in performance only a lighter pocket book. The standard M series nozzles that most eveyone uses will be simlar to this.

DO1 @ 100PSI 18microns
DO2 @ 100PSI 19microns
DO3 @ 100PSI 19microns
DO4 @ 100PSI 19microns
DO5 @ 100PSI 20microns
DO10 @ 100PSI 23 microns
DO15 @ 100PSI 24 microns
i would like to know how you came up with the mist size for the 7 nozzles you mentioned - it can only happen if you use a liquids of different viscosity/surface tension for each nozzle size.

mist size for hago m and mw nozzles


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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by lemmonhead
I think a dual nozzle is another good failsafe. If one clogs then at least you got some flow going on.
this is true but then you have the flipside of, is your failsafe sensitive enough to recognize if only one of your nozzles is clogged.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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if your failsafe has a flow trigger. My labonte failsafe has flow settings.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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These are provided to us by the manufacture of the DO nozzles. When we wanted to get these new nozzles made up haglo is one of the companys i went too. They didn't have the capability because there machines are so old. To cut the threads on the other side of the nozzle. Would require, someone to manual take the nozzle and stick it in another machine after the normal part was produced. Another AI company does this, and the price of the nozzle reflects a person having to handle ever part.




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i would like to know how you came up with the mist size for the 7 nozzles you mentioned - it can only happen if you use a liquids of different viscosity/surface tension for each nozzle size.

mist size for hago m and mw nozzles

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hellcat
I have an Aquamist kit in my car. I currently run the largest nozzle with the medium restrictor. I am on stock turbo at 30 psi currently. Is there any benefit if I install the smallest nozzle too? Any info. would be greatly appreciated. If you guys have tried this let me know. Thanks in advance

Which Aquamist kit do you have? If its the HFS series go for it. If it has the Aquamist pump dont! It may not be able to supply the volume you will put it up to. If you have the Aquamist pump lmk there are tricks to make it flow more.


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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 06:13 AM
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I have the HSF-5 kit. Thanks for all of the replies so far guys. It's helped with my understanding a lot. Now my question is where is the most beneficial location for the second nozzle? My first nozzle is on near the battery a little before the 90 to the throttle body. I do like the idea of cooling the air going into the intercooler. My ic isn't the most efficient.
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hellcat
I have the HSF-5 kit. Thanks for all of the replies so far guys. It's helped with my understanding a lot. Now my question is where is the most beneficial location for the second nozzle? My first nozzle is on near the battery a little before the 90 to the throttle body. I do like the idea of cooling the air going into the intercooler. My ic isn't the most efficient.
If your still using the stock IC pipes I would put the second nozzel on the pipe that comes from the IC (next to the stock air box) It will help bring air temps down and atomize really well.

As for pre IC water/meth. It will only be effective if done right. It will need to be a hot and dry climate where you know that the mixture will evaporate in the IC and not pool up causing sputtering. Its more dependable just to put a nozzel closer to the IC to cool the air down more. Good luck!

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