E85 with 100% meth or 50/50 meth/water?
Dec 19, 2008, 10:33 PM
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E85 with 100% meth or 50/50 meth/water?
Sorry to double post in a different forum but I would like to get some input from you guys since not everyone in here visits the Alternative Fuel forum.
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Not sure which forum this question should be in so I'll start here first. Has anyone run E85 as their primary fuel and added meth injection on top of it? I recently switched to E85 but still have the meth kit on the car.
I did some research and it seems like water-contaminated E85 forms formic acid during low temperature partial combustion. Formic acid causes rapid engine wear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85_in_standard_engines). I assume this doesn't hold true during a WOT pull and 50/50 water mixing with E85 is okay?
It looks like the guys at English Racing has some experience with E85/meth (http://www.englishracing.net/media/r...lishracing-evo) but I would appreciate input from anyone doing E85 & 50/50 meth/water or E85 & 100% meth.
I did some research and it seems like water-contaminated E85 forms formic acid during low temperature partial combustion. Formic acid causes rapid engine wear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85_in_standard_engines). I assume this doesn't hold true during a WOT pull and 50/50 water mixing with E85 is okay?
It looks like the guys at English Racing has some experience with E85/meth (http://www.englishracing.net/media/r...lishracing-evo) but I would appreciate input from anyone doing E85 & 50/50 meth/water or E85 & 100% meth.
Dec 19, 2008, 11:05 PM
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Dec 19, 2008, 11:30 PM
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You need to use a pump capable of running 100% meth. It has to have methanol resistant seals and diaphragm to prevent failure. The car without meth and straight E would run 115 almost 116 so the meth was worth an easy 80-90whp. Now of course thats an extreme example since it doesnt have any other intercooler, but on Pauls Evo when it was on E85 and a 37R was able to make about 50whp with E85 and meth than straight E85.
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Yes, I have a pump that can handle 100% meth. Ever try or think about trying 50/50? Do you know if that combination will form formic acid?
Thanks again for your help.
Thanks again for your help.
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Forgot to ask something. With Paul's car, how much meth were you guys injecting while running the 1600cc injectors?
I currently have FIC 1450's with an M10 nozzle in place. I do have an M15 nozzle but not installed.
I currently have FIC 1450's with an M10 nozzle in place. I do have an M15 nozzle but not installed.
