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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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Tephra+HFS-3 Failsafe help

Hey guys need some help convincing my tuner here. I'm wanting to go with an Aquamist HFS-3 kit to go with the FP Black that will be going on soon. Planning either 50/50 or just denatured alky.
Car currently has a Grimmspeed 3 port and is using ecu based boost control. Tuner said I'm currently using Tephra V5x or Vx5. I'm certain there has to be a way for the Aquamist HFS-3 with the DDSv10 gauge(failsafe) to switch maps as the fail safe. He's not sure as they typically use AEM meth kits. I'd much prefer Aquamist.

Is there a way to do it with some patch or alt-switch harness or something? If so, what exactly is it and how fast can it switch? Fast enough to save the motor?

I can link him to this thread after I have some answers in here.

FWIW I won't be running a ton of alky or meth, just a small jet, since E85 isn't easy to get here in Seattle.

I've seen some pin-outs of the HFS-3 sending a signal to a BCS. I know that's the stock boost control solenoid, but could it send it directly to the Grimmspeed 3 port?

FWIW when my current FP green comes off and the Black goes on, it will be external wastegate(Tial 38mm), as it's already set-up for that. Not sure if that matters as far as ECU based boost control goes.

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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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For thr DDS3 v10 it's a simple one wire hook up for ALT MAP.

It works the same on Tephra V5 or V7, It's the only failsafe I use.
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 08:07 PM
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Thanks. What all do we need to do it? Do I need the alt-map harness that Jamie sells or anything? If my tuner has any questions can he ask you?
How fast does it switch maps?
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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It should only take a few milliseconds at most. The switch happens very fast. Just make sure to adjust the failsafe window properly and not leave it wide open requiring great extremes for activation.
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 05:29 AM
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No, you shouldn't need a harnesses, always verify with a volt meter though..should be 5v or slightly less. You will need a wire & ECU pin.

Like the post above says, make sure the failsafe window is set up correctly.
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