Moving from IN to CA. Big headache.
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1. Could you teach me how could a ref find out I have after market cam, springs and retainers? Do they disassemble the motor?
Here is a link: http://www.norcalevo.net/threads/330...al-Exempt-mods
Is the post true that cam, retainers and springs are exempt or I can install them stealthily? Is there a way I could prevent a ref from finding them?
Here is a link: http://www.norcalevo.net/threads/330...al-Exempt-mods
Is the post true that cam, retainers and springs are exempt or I can install them stealthily? Is there a way I could prevent a ref from finding them?
They will put it on a lift and inspect the car underneath with a flashlight.
3. I'm just a student and I don't have money to buy a stock exhaust. But I have done a lot of research. I saw some people on Evom said car back exhaust has nothing to do with the emission so it should be exempt. Also I found something on DMV website:
"V C Section 27151 Modification of Exhaust Systems
Modification of Exhaust Systems
27151. (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle is not in compliance with the provisions of Section 27150 or exceeds the noise limits established for the type of vehicle in Article 2.5 (commencing with Section 27200). No person shall operate a motor vehicle with an exhaust system so modified.
(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust equipment."
So could I just buy a silencer to fix my catback exhaust issue?
"V C Section 27151 Modification of Exhaust Systems
Modification of Exhaust Systems
27151. (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle is not in compliance with the provisions of Section 27150 or exceeds the noise limits established for the type of vehicle in Article 2.5 (commencing with Section 27200). No person shall operate a motor vehicle with an exhaust system so modified.
(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust equipment."
So could I just buy a silencer to fix my catback exhaust issue?
Does this make sense? It's not rocket science, I gave you a link to the state database that lists parts legal for use. Remember, even with all CARB exempt parts, you could still fail the sniffer/rollers if your cams are too big, your tune isn't conservative or your catalytic converter is failing.
Good luck.
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California is a hell whole do not move here. I'm out as soon as I can get what I paid for my house. Ya there are nice beaches in socal and nor cal has some senic stuff but everything else sucks and most people do to. Crap place to work or own a business. You will also need to make $150k to support a family comfortably in a nice town and expect 3/4 of that to be your house payment. Anyways that's my rant. Best thing to do would be to have a relative register the car in Indiana, if you get pulled over the car won't be registered to you and the cops have no rights to make you change anything to comply to state laws if the car is not "yours".
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The more I hear about how the government in california is the more the song California songs has new meaning to me. I'm sure the people are cool but the way the state gov is just would tick me off. They are fine with a modified harley and all the big shops modifying everything there but they need to pick on some college kids for having a play toy. Proof that in california your only allowed to modify stuff to your liking if your rich.
So OP are you selling the car? Setting it back up close to stock appearing? Not move to California? It doesn't seem you have alot of choices.
I see purchases of stock pieces being installed back on your car in the near future.
So OP are you selling the car? Setting it back up close to stock appearing? Not move to California? It doesn't seem you have alot of choices.
I see purchases of stock pieces being installed back on your car in the near future.
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This is true, but if the car is not in your name they cannot touch you.
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I'm trying to figure out why your car would need to be checked by a referee? I just brought my car into California from Texas in February and when I brought it in I got my car "smogged". The only thing that the DMV checked was that at least 2 VIN numbers on my car matched. I handed them my smog paperwork and proof of insurance and I was good to go.
I think your car would only get checked by a ref if you got pulled over for a ticket and they asked you to pop your hood. Thats a different story. But just registering it in Cali shouldn't be as big of a hassel as everyone is making it seem.
I think your car would only get checked by a ref if you got pulled over for a ticket and they asked you to pop your hood. Thats a different story. But just registering it in Cali shouldn't be as big of a hassel as everyone is making it seem.
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I'm trying to figure out why your car would need to be checked by a referee? I just brought my car into California from Texas in February and when I brought it in I got my car "smogged". The only thing that the DMV checked was that at least 2 VIN numbers on my car matched. I handed them my smog paperwork and proof of insurance and I was good to go.
I think your car would only get checked by a ref if you got pulled over for a ticket and they asked you to pop your hood. Thats a different story. But just registering it in Cali shouldn't be as big of a hassel as everyone is making it seem.
I think your car would only get checked by a ref if you got pulled over for a ticket and they asked you to pop your hood. Thats a different story. But just registering it in Cali shouldn't be as big of a hassel as everyone is making it seem.
I'm nearly positive I can pass smog, but an in-depth visual would catch my tunable (but stock-appearing) cat-back, cut vacuum lines for a boost gauge, and my intercooler.
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I'm trying to figure out why your car would need to be checked by a referee? I just brought my car into California from Texas in February and when I brought it in I got my car "smogged". The only thing that the DMV checked was that at least 2 VIN numbers on my car matched. I handed them my smog paperwork and proof of insurance and I was good to go.
The issue is when the car is inspected at the DMV. If the employee sees something that's not OEM there is a chance you will be sent to the ref.
In this case I think you were lucky, got a lazy employee (they are state employed after all) or one that didn't care.
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Would I be better off putting the stock airbox in this weekend instead of the Injen CARB-approved intake? My catback and UICP look stock, so they'd probably go unnoticed. The intake is the only thing that sticks out.
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Try it out and see how it goes. I think it's hit or miss depending on the person doing the inspection.
To be honest, I don't know the exact criteria DMV employees are told to look for. I can say confidently what CHP and LEOs are trained to look for, however.
This is for smog, but might be a good guideline:
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...ns_Part_2.html
DMV site only says:
To be honest, I don't know the exact criteria DMV employees are told to look for. I can say confidently what CHP and LEOs are trained to look for, however.
This is for smog, but might be a good guideline:
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...ns_Part_2.html
DMV site only says:
The vehicle must be inspected by an authorized DMV employee, law enforcement officer, or a licensed vehicle verifier. These inspections are most easily obtained by bringing the vehicle to the nearest DMV. There is no charge for the inspection.
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