269 cam lifts
Originally Posted by TylerO@WORKS
you go from that to a 3", you get nothing but exhaust turbulence and rapid thermal expansion.
I can vouch the 269 cams rock
I had Tyler and Pete install them a few months back along with the p2 reflash and they also installed my sp downpipe 3" and turbo xs rfl 3" catback and perrin 3" test pipe with the o2 eliminator..lol they made me bolt on the last bolt for the test pipe for legal reasons. Got a kick out of that. I actually had the p2 done first and had installed my hks suction intake myself. I was amazed at the difference. But once I got the turbo back exhaust on with the 269 cams it was like night and day. The car just hauled *** period. I'm waiting on dyno or 1/4 times till I dump the stock clutch but I can tell you the 269 cams make the car extremely torqy. It moves through the powerband much faster and all the way to 7800rpm if you have the p2. Already killed a Camerco SS on the freeway up to 145 with the current setup which was pretty cool. I would have never expected that. He shut down and i followed him and we talked for a bit. He has a new found respect for the EVO now. He knew they were fast but not that fast. Anyhow I'm done with my rant on the cams..they're great..get them if you can. You'll be very happy.
Matt
P.S. Tyler, Pete I'll be back soon for the throttle body
Matt
P.S. Tyler, Pete I'll be back soon for the throttle body
Originally Posted by EM@WORKS
First you have to determine what your goals are.
Are you looking for broad smooth power over a wide RPM range or are you looking for super peaky power across a very narrow RPM band?
Will your EVO spend all or most of it's time on th street, the track, the dragstip? Can you live with a mildly lumpy idle or a very lumpy idle with stalling?
Cams can be designed for very different engine characteristics which suit individual driving styles.
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Then lastly, you should entrust a good tuner to tune your motor with those particular cams installed. Not just Wide Open Throttle in one (3rd) gear. The cams affect your 4G63 from idle (850RPM in no gear) all the way to 7600RPM in 5th gear and everything in between. A good tuner should provide a proper tune across the whole load and RPM range for their particular cams.
Are you looking for broad smooth power over a wide RPM range or are you looking for super peaky power across a very narrow RPM band?
Will your EVO spend all or most of it's time on th street, the track, the dragstip? Can you live with a mildly lumpy idle or a very lumpy idle with stalling?
Cams can be designed for very different engine characteristics which suit individual driving styles.
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Then lastly, you should entrust a good tuner to tune your motor with those particular cams installed. Not just Wide Open Throttle in one (3rd) gear. The cams affect your 4G63 from idle (850RPM in no gear) all the way to 7600RPM in 5th gear and everything in between. A good tuner should provide a proper tune across the whole load and RPM range for their particular cams.
Personally, I'm looking for something across the power band. Mostly a street car, occasional drag and possible track - but mostly street as a daily (fun) driver. I don't want something that will stall!
I have the 269 cams, ful works exhaust, throttle body, P2, and the package works together brilliantly. There is always power on demand, which will be very usefull in track and autocross situations. Huge, fat torque curve, which the cams contribute to immensely. Dynoed my car recently at S-squared's Mustang Dyno in sacramento, stock Sti's put down about 215 on that dyno, and I dynoed at 245 (thier dyno consistently reads about 15-20% less than most dynojets). So you figure 30 WHP more than a stock STI, and you are looking right in the range of 330-340 HP (Crank). So, the package does what it advertises. I love it. The only thing I want to add is water injection, so I can get a little more of a radical tune with the same margin of safety.
Percy Howard
Percy Howard
Originally Posted by hagakure
I have the 269 cams, ful works exhaust, throttle body, P2, and the package works together brilliantly. There is always power on demand, which will be very usefull in track and autocross situations. Huge, fat torque curve, which the cams contribute to immensely. Dynoed my car recently at S-squared's Mustang Dyno in sacramento, stock Sti's put down about 215 on that dyno, and I dynoed at 245 (thier dyno consistently reads about 15-20% less than most dynojets). So you figure 30 WHP more than a stock STI, and you are looking right in the range of 330-340 HP (Crank). So, the package does what it advertises. I love it. The only thing I want to add is water injection, so I can get a little more of a radical tune with the same margin of safety.
Percy Howard
Percy Howard
Any other comments? Can someone from works comment on my earlier post?
Always envy you gus that can get 93 Octane...it's been shown time and time again to be worth 15-20 WHP ont he state of tune that I'm at now. You will love the Cams, it will be a great final addtion to what you are running now, and give you that feeling of torque on demand.
Percy
Percy
The 269 cams idle suprisingly smooth. In addition, I don't know if the WORKS guys have mentioned this, but they smogged a set of 269's on a stock Evo and they came out cleaner than stock. Don't know much more, might want to ask them about it.
I plan on getting some 269's as soon as finances allow it. I hear nothing but good about the WORKS cams. I've been to their shop and have spoken to the WORKS engineers for hours on end. Their tuning philisophy doesnt have room for wasting time on useless products. Rest assured that their products are HEAVILY researched and tested over and over again. Their products may not always be the biggest, the shiniest, the most extreme....but from my experience, they seems to always deliver and keep me happy.
Just my 2c!
PS - For folks that want more extreme products, the WORKS guys are telling me to stay tuned for something called the WORKS Racing Program, where there will be more extreme stuff (P3 flash?) that will cater to those that want the 3" pipes and the high boost applications.
I plan on getting some 269's as soon as finances allow it. I hear nothing but good about the WORKS cams. I've been to their shop and have spoken to the WORKS engineers for hours on end. Their tuning philisophy doesnt have room for wasting time on useless products. Rest assured that their products are HEAVILY researched and tested over and over again. Their products may not always be the biggest, the shiniest, the most extreme....but from my experience, they seems to always deliver and keep me happy.
Just my 2c!
PS - For folks that want more extreme products, the WORKS guys are telling me to stay tuned for something called the WORKS Racing Program, where there will be more extreme stuff (P3 flash?) that will cater to those that want the 3" pipes and the high boost applications.
Last edited by Coolguy949; Aug 17, 2004 at 02:12 AM.
Originally Posted by Coolguy949
The 269 cams idle suprisingly smooth. In addition, I don't know if the WORKS guys have mentioned this, but they smogged a set of 269's on a stock Evo and they came out cleaner than stock. Don't know much more, might want to ask them about it.
I plan on getting some 269's as soon as finances allow it. I hear nothing but good about the WORKS cams. I've been to their shop and have spoken to the WORKS engineers for hours on end. Their tuning philisophy doesnt have room for wasting time on useless products. Rest assured that their products are HEAVILY researched and tested over and over again. Their products may not always be the biggest, the shiniest, the most extreme....but from my experience, they seems to always deliver and keep me happy.
Just my 2c!
PS - For folks that want more extreme products, the WORKS guys are telling me to stay tuned for something called the WORKS Racing Program, where there will be more extreme stuff (P3 flash?) that will cater to those that want the 3" pipes and the high boost applications.
I plan on getting some 269's as soon as finances allow it. I hear nothing but good about the WORKS cams. I've been to their shop and have spoken to the WORKS engineers for hours on end. Their tuning philisophy doesnt have room for wasting time on useless products. Rest assured that their products are HEAVILY researched and tested over and over again. Their products may not always be the biggest, the shiniest, the most extreme....but from my experience, they seems to always deliver and keep me happy.
Just my 2c!
PS - For folks that want more extreme products, the WORKS guys are telling me to stay tuned for something called the WORKS Racing Program, where there will be more extreme stuff (P3 flash?) that will cater to those that want the 3" pipes and the high boost applications.
Right On.
I agree. The cams are excellent, power is added everywhere, and they nicely fill in the gap up top.
Percy
Originally Posted by hagakure
Right On.
I agree. The cams are excellent, power is added everywhere, and they nicely fill in the gap up top.
Percy
I agree. The cams are excellent, power is added everywhere, and they nicely fill in the gap up top.
Percy
Just wanna know whether the 269 needs to change the stock oem valve springs & retainers??
Is there a need to upgrade to cam gears? if so what is the settings?
Please advise..
Thanks....
Originally Posted by MR
Hey guys,
Just wanna know whether the 269 needs to change the stock oem valve springs & retainers??
Is there a need to upgrade to cam gears? if so what is the settings?
Please advise..
Thanks....
Just wanna know whether the 269 needs to change the stock oem valve springs & retainers??
Is there a need to upgrade to cam gears? if so what is the settings?
Please advise..
Thanks....
1. No, oem valve springs and retainers will do fine.
2. No need for cam gears.
Get them installed and enjoy. I am hoping to get my 269s in the very near future.
Originally Posted by jansolo
And the answer is:
1. No, oem valve springs and retainers will do fine.
2. No need for cam gears.
Get them installed and enjoy. I am hoping to get my 269s in the very near future.
1. No, oem valve springs and retainers will do fine.
2. No need for cam gears.
Get them installed and enjoy. I am hoping to get my 269s in the very near future.
Do u need to upgrade the stock fuel pump with this 269 cams?
Currently, my mods are just mainly bolt-ons...like,
1) 2.75" Str8 thru exhaust including catback
2) 3" DP
3) HKS EVC (22psi for max currently & tentatively ;>)
4) A/F controller
5) Apexi Cone air intake
6) HKS Groundings (DIY)
7) Hyper Voltage MR Stabilser
8) Greddy Type S
THanks......
Originally Posted by jansolo
You could upgrade your fuel pump if you really really wanted to, but I don't think it's necessary at all with your current list of mods.
Y do the HKS 272 needs the retainers & valve springs to be changed???
HKS 272s don't require the change that I know of. My friend runs 272s and has yet to change his springs and retainers and it runs great.
Now, something more lift like Piper Rally cams with all their crazy amounts of lift would require upgraded valve springs and retainers.
Now, something more lift like Piper Rally cams with all their crazy amounts of lift would require upgraded valve springs and retainers.


