Alright i have an 06 Ralliart A/T and want to know if its worth it to drop $$ down on it... I like the power of the Evo and would love to make my ralliart almost compared... Would of bought the Evo if my insurance wasn't triple! Anyone got any ideas?

 

Turbo!!!!

 

Yeah Turbo and Torque converter!

 

$7k later. is the torque converter necessary until you gain more whp than just the turbo? thats alot of money for a little over 200whp(automatic)

 

turbo and LSD

 

+1

 

ok, same question here then. Is it worth the $ (well over 5k) to turbo and lsd the auto version for a little over 200whp. do you even need (obviously you will have benefits, I said need) an lsd with a little over 200 whp? Wouldn't the $2000 you need to buy it and have it put in be more beneficial elsewhere on an auto? From my understaning both an lsd and torque converter are finishing mods, not starter mods. Please educate me, or at least batter me with you opinions. I would like to know more information, especially about torque converters and there benefits.

 

i know almost nothing about torque converters, but my understanding was the lsd is an essential step after the turbo if you want to start working on more boost.

 

Errrrhh....can an auto transmission have an LSD?????????

 

I think an auto transmission cannot use a LSD because the LSD is meant for manual cars. On an auto transmission, it uses a torque converter. If the thread originator goes for high boost, it would be a pretty good idea to strengthen the torque convertor and the valve body....perhaps the internal gears as well.....

 

Ermmm, yeah, you can use an LSD in an automatic. The torque converter is a completely different unit than the LSD. The torque converter is basically the clutch for an automatic tranny. The LSD is the differential which has nothing to do with the torque converter. Granted I'm not sure if the LSD from RRM would work on the auto because I'm not sure if it uses the same one as the manual, but I do know that you can use an LSD in an automatic.

 

yeah, lsd is part of the drivetrain. I agree with ralliart50 though, I would call RRM before getting excited about any lsd because they offer the only one for our cars and it may be only for manual tranny.

No one has answered my question though. There is so much more you can do for the amount of money you would have to spend on a torque converter. Is it really worth it to START with the torque converter, even with the power from turbocharging the car? Would it not be more beneficial to fix some of the other drivability issues first, such as the TIRES.

 

Well, technically the torque converter is part of the drivetrain too, just an entirely different part. Yes, it would be smart to call RRM to see if it fits. Don't forget that RPW also sells an LSD for the RA though so you can look at what they have to offer too.

I totally agree with you that other things should be done rather than putting in an LSD and changing the torque converter out. Those would be ending mods in my opinion. Put the torque converter and LSD in at once since you have the tranny out. It would be more worth it to see if you could find a valve body to make the tranny shift a little more firmly and quicker though. If it was me going with the turbo I would go with the UD pulley, intake manifold, cat back, and a cam when it comes out. That would be it for straight line speed until I was ready to go with the stage 2 set-up. Then I would work my suspension. If you have the money get coilovers, then get a tiebar, swaybar, swaybar perches, and new tires. After all of that, if you had an extra $4,000 laying around, go get that torque converter and LSD. Just my .02 though.

 

For under 5k on the Ralliart you can have the turbo and alky setup giving you around 240+whp.

No need for tranny mods... no need for anything else. Just the standard kit for 4200 and the alky for 500. You'll be good to go. Install yourself.

If you aren't that good mechanical wise then maybe you should consider just keeping the car NA... do a few power adder mods and be happy. You'll never get the power of an Evo NA. You'll have to turbo for that.

LSD is for Manuel applications only. On the auto the setup is changed thru hydraulics. You'd need about 3k to get all that done with a good torque converter. Not worth it for the power you're talking about getting.

If these prices scare you or make you think it's not worth it... then sell the Ralliart and get an older turbo'd car.

 

Okay my mistake on the torque converter, but I am pretty sure there is no LSD for an auto transmission because the gearings are different. In auto, it goes with sun and planet thingy......