I am still curious why the 5th injector? Why can't you go with bigger injectors? not putting he 5th down I am just wondering.....

 

tuning is an issue for this car. the fifth, while not the best method, was effective enough to get this kit pieced together for a somewhat reasonable price.

 

I'm even gonna buy a better welding setup this summer some time too I like making stuff for mah car

 

all of what I have stated was factual or opinion based on fact, would you care to share an opinion on your manifold design or the statements you made to Shannon when he called about his car?

you guys have my full support, because you support what you sell and everything you sell is what you say it is. I will still call you on stuff though, so get over yourself you can either offer an opinion or concede the point. you've already "improved" your manifold once before that you have spoken about, and I am sure it wasn't the very first design you drew either. what's so hard about admitting the wastegate would be more efficient if the manifold was different?

as far as the wastegate dump, it was a poor design plain and simple. I've seen it on two cars now, and both had the same exhaust backing up into the engine bay from it. Joe's (ralliartonlsd) was very minor and Shannon's (geardownson) was pouring out. He's been to a shop once or twice to have it adjusted, I've recommended getting a flange welded in. again, you can offer an opinion or concede the point, just don't come on here and roll your eyes because you don't like what someone has to say about your products.

for the record, I would buy the kit if I had the means and didn't enjoy working on the car myself (if turbo was still in the cards for me of course ) I would, cost aside, replace the manifold however. tubular style FTW

 

anyone else notice that his vacuum is very high number?
mine(NA) gets to max 14.7

is this because he is boosted/is it normal for a boosted car?
or could it also be a sympton of the problem?

 

That's definately odd... sorry i've been moving so been without internet.

I wouldn't remove the wastegate entirely as that could cause a fire under the hood from the hot gases. Instead have RRM send you a "small yellow" spring. (.24bar or just under 4psi.) Swap it out and see if the same happens. If it does i'd suggest a leak happening on the vacuum/boost line supplying the wastegate.

Try pressurizing the vacuum/boost line by just taking it off the intake tube and adding pressure. See if it leaks... feel free to pressurize it up to 15psi. When I pressure test a system I usually do it up to 20psi just to be sure and to help hear leaks.

I know you've done a lot already but now that it's running with no cell lets just focus on the overboost. The change in the tune won't effect your boost level. That is all in the wastegate. Let's focus on that with these tests and go from there.

Just work with me on this and we'll get you dialled in. Hardest part you had was getting the piggy right and CEL gone. Now we are on mechanical issues that we can solve with simple tests.

 

Went to the shop today made an appointment April 5 for them to port the wastegate tube(where it is welded) and look at the wastegate. They will be blocking some exhaust flow(downpipe) if the porting doesn't work.

I still haven't given up yet especially after dumping the amount of coin into it that I have.

I will post up after April 5 as to what the outcome is I'm hoping it is good

Thanks to everyone for ideas !

 

StevoX Your cars vacuum is actually under the minimium.

Minimum limit: 60 kPa (18 in Hg) from the manual.

 

I really didnt read all of this thoroughly, but yes, i did have a minor leak on my exhaust manifold. But i wouldnt say it was bad engineering, i would say it is because i drive my car like my life is a video game..... Heavy abuse just isnt the word.

and as far as boost leak, boost spike, exhaust leak, yada yada... considering the amount of torture my car goes through, i would say the manifold and wastegate setup is pretty damn good.. Now im no engineer, but i know a decent product when i see one. And this product survived my test with very minimal problems. If it passed my test, it'll be bulletproof for any other ralliart owner.

 

I'm not saying it's a bad kit, I'm saying it's lacking in some areas. exhaust leaking into the engine bay is not acceptable in my book it's workable, and the kit runs great, but your engine bay is getting black all the time.

 

There is a guy here in Ottawa not the yellow one but a black RA that has a self made turbo kit......

 

That may be the probelm but then we got bashed for something else that proved untrue. Adam even apologized. Otherwise, some folks pass judgement and not the installers, not the owners, and not the manufacturers. Some wastegate tubes (like 2-4) had mis match OD to ID on the dump tube. Not want we like but considering dumping to atmoshere is allowed (just loud) that is not the issue. So I concede the point. But I answer to Shannon not you. You used to be pretty straight guy but I guess all this forum stuff has changed you a bit. You know things are not as simple as people write out on these boards. I don't roll my eyes cause I talk to anyone who may have had an issue. I know a lot more than I feel like writing. You don't like something fine. But just cause you are not a vendor does not mean you can say whatever you want without a response. That is not anything like rolling my eyes. I know the evolution of the kit. Mistumanny and Retro have been up and running for 3 years. They have the oldest style kits. Did we improve them since, yes. I am dam proud of the ONLY full (tuned), kit for the RA. IF a little wastegate leak or resolvable issue comes up in1 out of 20 kits then so be it. You gotta have a stomach for modding your car hardcore. Maybe it is not in the cards for some. IT is cheaper, easier to be a critic instead. You want to talk about this with me just call.. You know the number. Meantime, Adam is checking stuff and we don't even know if he has an issue with anything in the manifold..... I know , I know, just more fun to assume that is it and bash.

ROAD/RACE

 

Well it doesn't leak into the engine bay....We actually didn't even need to clamp it suprising enough.

Things we are checking on April 5

* wastegate- function - opening fully ect..

* wastegate tube checking opening porting where possible.

*restrictor plate in the exhaust if porting doesn't work.

*possibly welding in a cat

*possibly changing out the air filter to something smaller

Hopefully that will take care of the boost creep....if not then who knows

 

you're right, this is the wrong place to be discussing things like this. I have not changed(well, maybe a little but it doesn't have much to do with the forums), but I have more information now I am not saying any of this was/is the root cause, but things do add up sometimes. regardless, I would still stand in front of the kit as I said above. believe me when I tell you I understand that you don't get the whole story on here, but if you aren't typing to contribute then you aren't contributing to the whole story I appreciate the response either way.

bashing? come on Rob. at this point you and I have had plenty of discussion, both online and off, for you to tell the difference between bashing and probing. I would rather you spent ALL your time on here providing information, but I know you can't do that. sometimes you have to be pushed into making a response at all no hard feelings I hope

 

"I am dam proud of the ONLY full (tuned), kit for the RA"

I thought RPW has a turbo kit? Plus I know of a company in Gatineau that is developing one I have see the prototype, can't wait for the finished product....