just finish the RRM clutch line
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just finish the RRM clutch line
Took my car into my mechanic to get the RRM clutch line installed. He had the speed bleeder there so I figure I will let him handle it.
To get some answers out of the way:
1. it's the correct length to reach from the slave cylinder to the transmission
2. doesn't matter which way you install it, they are the same on both ends
3. you don't need a banjo bolt because it's designed differently than Evos
4. you have to do some major pumping of the clutch even after you use a speed bleeder.. we must have done 8-10 pumps before it was fully clear of air
5. have PLENTY of brake fluid on hand.. and always fill it to the top.. it might look like it's enough (between the min and max line) but when we dump in more fluid, all the bubbles raised to the top and it just suck down half a bottle..
6. don't overtighten the line..
three words to describe the feel.. "night and day" .. the difference is so great, my wife complained about the harsh shifts (jerking) when i shift fast before.. now it's silky smooth.. enagement is totally predictable and it's GREAT..
btw.. i skip the install of the underhood bushings.. it felt good the way it is.. they are for sale in the Canadian forum if anybody is interested
-joe
To get some answers out of the way:
1. it's the correct length to reach from the slave cylinder to the transmission
2. doesn't matter which way you install it, they are the same on both ends
3. you don't need a banjo bolt because it's designed differently than Evos
4. you have to do some major pumping of the clutch even after you use a speed bleeder.. we must have done 8-10 pumps before it was fully clear of air
5. have PLENTY of brake fluid on hand.. and always fill it to the top.. it might look like it's enough (between the min and max line) but when we dump in more fluid, all the bubbles raised to the top and it just suck down half a bottle..
6. don't overtighten the line..
three words to describe the feel.. "night and day" .. the difference is so great, my wife complained about the harsh shifts (jerking) when i shift fast before.. now it's silky smooth.. enagement is totally predictable and it's GREAT..
btw.. i skip the install of the underhood bushings.. it felt good the way it is.. they are for sale in the Canadian forum if anybody is interested
-joe
I did the line install yesterday also, I did the bleeding myself. I had to call RRM to get the correct install location. You have to remove both of the harlines you see attached to the slave. Then you connect it directly to the slave and ruber hose. When you look at it you will know What I mean. I also had to do some major bleeding. about 1/2 of a bottle and MAKE SURE ITS ALWAYS VERY FULL. I had to start the bleeding over as it was taking in some air. THe clutch engagement is VERY smooth and as sillypuddy stated, its very predictable. I find that the engagement is now much lower than before. rather than letting the clutch out about 1/2 way before engagement. it engages right away. I find it a little mushy at first when pressing it down. I did bleed it well. I wonder if anyone else feels this?....SS clutch line is highly recomended and VERY easy to install. 1 hour is all thats needed.
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forgot to mention that.. you remove the entire hardline / restricter combo..
the master cylinder might LOOK full.. but when you pour more fluid in, a big azz bubble will rise up and it will be empty.. as if the bubble is stuck at the bottom of the cylinder.. so just pour it!!
I find that previously the engagement is variable.. none predicatable.. now it engages the same spot every time.. VERY NICE upgrade
-joe
the master cylinder might LOOK full.. but when you pour more fluid in, a big azz bubble will rise up and it will be empty.. as if the bubble is stuck at the bottom of the cylinder.. so just pour it!!
I find that previously the engagement is variable.. none predicatable.. now it engages the same spot every time.. VERY NICE upgrade
-joe
Is this clutch line something that you could actually make on your own? It simply looks like a braided stainless steel hose with a screw on connector on each end... Is there something i'm missing here? Should it really cost $60?
P.S. I do not in any way, shape, or form mean this to be badmouthing RRM, they are a great company and make awesome stuff.. I'm just curious, thats all.
P.S. I do not in any way, shape, or form mean this to be badmouthing RRM, they are a great company and make awesome stuff.. I'm just curious, thats all.
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wow you guys are making me want this NOW, I was going to wait but now I really want it. Is there any imrovement in reverse? I have a hard time backing up without burning the clutch stalling or bogging. BTW this is my first stick so dont flame me for sucking at driving in reverse.
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Originally Posted by kondo
wow you guys are making me want this NOW, I was going to wait but now I really want it. Is there any imrovement in reverse? I have a hard time backing up without burning the clutch stalling or bogging. BTW this is my first stick so dont flame me for sucking at driving in reverse.
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Wow kondo. I just noticed that you have a lot of mods on your car. How long have you been driving it? I'm only surprised because you said it was your first stick. I figured you would be more focused on learning to drive it than mod'ing. But I'm probably just jealous because you already have everything that I want.
Yeah, what big dog said is right....even for starting in first or on a hill...just stabbing the pedal a few times as you let the clutch in could help ya. Then again (just to keep things on topic...hehe), getting the clutch line will help to....as sillypuddy has said....it makes the engagment smoother and consistent.
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if you are new to stick, either practice in a parking lot sunday morning or get a few hours seat time with somebody who is VERY good at it or consider a CAA class
i haven't burn any clutches or overrev on reverse since i started to drive.. so i am sure you might be doing somethign incorrectly that soembody can point out to you in a hurry
you don't have any issues with the downpipe? no cat and all
-joe
i haven't burn any clutches or overrev on reverse since i started to drive.. so i am sure you might be doing somethign incorrectly that soembody can point out to you in a hurry
you don't have any issues with the downpipe? no cat and all
-joe
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you don't open up the transmission to install the line.. so you can do the flywheel together or later.. doesn't matter
i rather wait until i replace my clutch before i replace the flywheel, since i would be in there changing stuff anyways
-joe
i rather wait until i replace my clutch before i replace the flywheel, since i would be in there changing stuff anyways
-joe


