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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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Note. SC is not more effiecient than turbos. Ask yourself, "Why are WRC ,4 cylinder,cars turbo?"

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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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Seriously, in the case of the WRC, it's down to the response when exiting corners. The turbo gets the boost to the engine much more agressively. The SC is much smoother (because the boost builds up gradually).

An SC is a good daily driver technology... but a bad competition option, at least on cars that have to deal with numerous slow corners.

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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ROCK
Note. SC is not more effiecient than turbos. Ask yourself, "Why are WRC ,4 cylinder,cars turbo?"

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i dont want to bash you opinion but that applies just to wrx (rally/ autocross)...
but in drag (1/4) when have you seen a turbocharged engine break the 4's or the 5' sec times?
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Exactly, the SC is a good technology for straight line runs... not so much for instant accelerations out of corners. Notice that the EVO is centered around the concept of fast cornering too...

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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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Not 4 cylinders! Parasitic losses are too great from small displacement engine.

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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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im a sc guy that has had a lot of turbo cars in the past... but my mind set is that if you balance the tune of the sc car it take a turbo on autox any day... the only exp i have there is a 2003 cobra... so far no evo or such has "over-corner" the car and it is rwd... i look at drag as the savage side of car racing as for autocross, is like playing the violin....
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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turbo is alot better cause it is free power and sc takes power made and mutiplys it. the fastest cars i have seen all have turbo not sc. i have seen a 4 cylinder twin turbo have 4000hp. i have never seen a sc car break the 4 and 5 in a 1/4 mile. prove me wrong.

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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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well this car is a daily driver and with frequent runs to BC and back, so I want the throttle response there when I need it, so this is the dilemma, SC= easy to ,aintin and little to no tweaking, turbo= bigger setup, lag and well tweaking required when at sea level. but i like both hmmmmm the only thing that i see the 2 have in common is a ridiculously high price tag from every supplier, I'm not raining on anyone inparticular I just think that we canadians get hosed when it comes to setups, I just which they weren't so pricey thats all, I have a family and a mortgage just like everyone else but would be nice to be able to afford a product and gain a few extra ponies when some money is saved, for me to square away $4000 cdn is a bit tough, just wish there were breaks.....
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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I'm with you on that... I can't believe there's never a compromise product out there for guys who'd like more power but are also on a budget (that includes most of the car guys I know).

Why can't anybody come up with a nice package that would give us a reasonable 20-25Hp but won't break the bank (say, under 2000$CAN - about 1700$US)? Is there a technology problem (nothing to bridge the gap between F/I and N/A)? Is it demand (I'm quite sure it isn't)? Is it the attitude of the shops (the guys just not being interested on developping smaller kits)?

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