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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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Head swap?

I havn't been a avid reader this last few months, did a quick search and found nothing so i thought i'd throw this out there. Is a head swap possible on the 4g69? What about the 4g64 or 4g63? forget all the **** about getting an evo or the issues with wiring or anything like that, just nuts and bolts. I know the 64 and 63 heads are interchangeable, but what other block head combos are possible in the 4g family? Don't guess, if u don't know don't comment, nay sayers kill the chances of someone trying something new!
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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You could probibly attempt it, but im not sure if the coolant passages will match up like they do in hondas. There really wouldnt be a point unless a certain combo will end up with more torque or something. Like a b18 LS block and a b16 head in honda speak.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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i looked in to puting a evo head on my ra but i was told not possible.




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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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if you swap the head, youll loose mivec, also theres nothing to swap heads with yet.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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RA valves are 1mm bigger. 500whp on stock cam & head capaility. No BS..! Ask what stockcammed head EVO had achieved that..?
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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i just want the valve cover from the new eclipses lol
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Thunder-rush
RA valves are 1mm bigger. 500whp on stock cam & head capaility. No BS..! Ask what stockcammed head EVO had achieved that..?
......but what good is that on a peg-leg drivetrain?



OP -- could probably swap the 4G94 head in....but why? Doubt that everything would line up from a 4G63.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Thunder-rush
RA valves are 1mm bigger. 500whp on stock cam & head capaility. No BS..! Ask what stockcammed head EVO had achieved that..?
Any stock head cammed evo with a gt35r and race gas. Its just not practical.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by morpheus256
if you swap the head, youll loose mivec, also theres nothing to swap heads with yet.

Well if a 4g63 head will fit you could use a evo9 head and keep mivec. Would it be as simple as comparing head gaskets or am i over simplifying it? DOHC does have its advantages. This months DSport has a evo8 with a 4g64 and a 4g63 head, just got me thinking what other combos are there that havn't been tried yet!
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fast ralliart
i looked in to puting a evo head on my ra but i was told not possible.





Who told you it wouldn't fit? Did they try it?
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Eclipse2Lancer
Doubt that everything would line up from a 4G63.

Why do you doubt it? Why do you think the 4g94 would work but not the 4g63?


Sorry if i'm coming off like a *****, its not my intention i assure you. I'm just fustrated with the answers, nothing concrete just people guessing and bs'ing. I wish i had the resources to try this myself, but we don't get evo's up here and i don't have the money to throw down on a head that "probabaly won't fit". But i figured that since there's a lot of shops on this board maybe some disscussion into the matter would get them interested in trying it. i dunno, maybe in 10 years when ra's and evo are in junkyards...sigh
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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dont know much about this but that evo has both a 4g64 and 4g63 head...? how can it have to heads?? i always thought this was a one or the other thing, but my mechanic know how goes as far as putting on basic bolt ons so feel free to flame if i sound like a moron right now.

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Well if a 4g63 head will fit you could use a evo9 head and keep mivec. Would it be as simple as comparing head gaskets or am i over simplifying it? DOHC does have its advantages. This months DSport has a evo8 with a 4g64 and a 4g63 head, just got me thinking what other combos are there that havn't been tried yet!
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliart329
dont know much about this but that evo has both a 4g64 and 4g63 head...? how can it have to heads?? i always thought this was a one or the other thing, but my mechanic know how goes as far as putting on basic bolt ons so feel free to flame if i sound like a moron right now.

Sorry its a 4g64 block with a 4g63 head...and your right, inline engines only have one head.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RedlineRA
Who told you it wouldn't fit? Did they try it?
yeah i second that....alot of people say it wont fit but they havent try it...just like the evo rims wont fit our cars but....why does someone in PR got them on a Ralliart?? i guess they fit huh ! ...low profile tires are amazing
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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To many people know very little about these complex jobs.

When people say an evo engine cant be swapped in - they know nothing.
Engine swaps in general cant be done - know nothing!

Head swap, I've no idea if it would work - someone would have to throughly research it.

Finally Mivec on the Evo 9 is just variable valve timing and not lift.
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