Gears won't go in while cold
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just the guy i was hoping to hear from, i just switched to this
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...r-lube-75w-90/
and filled it up to where it wont drain anymore on level ground and everything, it was running pretty good until this morning was the first cold we got and it was around 30 and my car just wouldnt shift 1-2. it was 10 mins down the road till the gears were working decently. just wondering if this is normal? am i using the wrong product? is there a way to thin it down for better cold conditions? because i dont drive to far to get to school and i cant do my transmission like that the next 3 months.
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...r-lube-75w-90/
and filled it up to where it wont drain anymore on level ground and everything, it was running pretty good until this morning was the first cold we got and it was around 30 and my car just wouldnt shift 1-2. it was 10 mins down the road till the gears were working decently. just wondering if this is normal? am i using the wrong product? is there a way to thin it down for better cold conditions? because i dont drive to far to get to school and i cant do my transmission like that the next 3 months.
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mtg is a different oil, the mtf is rated at all the specs that mitsu asks for just like mt90 or bg or the gm.
All this took place before i really started on this site, i never had issues until i put the amsoil in and not realizing amsoil was the problem i used it again, still having the problem i put oem in and it worked much better again...so it wasn't the oil is what your saying??
im not the only person whose used the amsoil mtf and had problems, im not saying the companies **** im saying this oil in our trans just doesn't work right and it doesn't help that i drove it for a year with this mtf in it before i could do the synchros.
All i can say is what ive seen in using the mtf, if i put oem in the trans instead of mtf at the beginning i would have been fine
All this took place before i really started on this site, i never had issues until i put the amsoil in and not realizing amsoil was the problem i used it again, still having the problem i put oem in and it worked much better again...so it wasn't the oil is what your saying??
im not the only person whose used the amsoil mtf and had problems, im not saying the companies **** im saying this oil in our trans just doesn't work right and it doesn't help that i drove it for a year with this mtf in it before i could do the synchros.
All i can say is what ive seen in using the mtf, if i put oem in the trans instead of mtf at the beginning i would have been fine
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i didn't have any problems with the amsoil, my only gripe with the amsoil is it didn't perform well when it got super hot, like race track hot, so maybe the same is true for the cold?
the redline MTL has been superb in all temperature extremes, i got the privilege of driving it in +30 degrees celcuis, and -12 degrees celcius...and it was flawless, so i definitely recommend the MTL over the amsoil, but i didn't have any normal driving problems with the amsoil...
the redline MTL has been superb in all temperature extremes, i got the privilege of driving it in +30 degrees celcuis, and -12 degrees celcius...and it was flawless, so i definitely recommend the MTL over the amsoil, but i didn't have any normal driving problems with the amsoil...
just the guy i was hoping to hear from, i just switched to this
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...r-lube-75w-90/
and filled it up to where it wont drain anymore on level ground and everything, it was running pretty good until this morning was the first cold we got and it was around 30 and my car just wouldnt shift 1-2. it was 10 mins down the road till the gears were working decently. just wondering if this is normal? am i using the wrong product? is there a way to thin it down for better cold conditions? because i dont drive to far to get to school and i cant do my transmission like that the next 3 months.
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...r-lube-75w-90/
and filled it up to where it wont drain anymore on level ground and everything, it was running pretty good until this morning was the first cold we got and it was around 30 and my car just wouldnt shift 1-2. it was 10 mins down the road till the gears were working decently. just wondering if this is normal? am i using the wrong product? is there a way to thin it down for better cold conditions? because i dont drive to far to get to school and i cant do my transmission like that the next 3 months.
Mix the MTG with a qt of this.
I dont know about having to wait for the oil to work better, but at the same time, I have never changed it in the winter, always in the spring, simply because when it's winter here, lying on the ground is less than desirable.
It isnt the amsoil, I have been running it for a few years now and never a problem, a little notchy in the mornings when its been in the 20's all night but gone in a few miles, never a lock out.. So you made 2 changes and blamed one of them for your problem..so tell us about those shifter bushings, what kind they are, rubber, urethane or brass, steel ect and if you lubed them and made sure they didnt bind--. Any other issues?
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It isnt the amsoil, I have been running it for a few years now and never a problem, a little notchy in the mornings when its been in the 20's all night but gone in a few miles, never a lock out.. So you made 2 changes and blamed one of them for your problem..so tell us about those shifter bushings, what kind they are, rubber, urethane or brass, steel ect and if you lubed them and made sure they didnt bind--. Any other issues?
I got another theory on maybe my rear suspension sagged and my car is sitting at an angle therefor I overfilled a little
I'm not blaming the fluid I'm totally with amsoil it's just I'm wondering how to get It to work properly I've heard nothing but good about there mtg
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mtg is a different oil, the mtf is rated at all the specs that mitsu asks for just like mt90 or bg or the gm.
All this took place before i really started on this site, i never had issues until i put the amsoil in and not realizing amsoil was the problem i used it again, still having the problem i put oem in and it worked much better again...so it wasn't the oil is what your saying??
im not the only person whose used the amsoil mtf and had problems, im not saying the companies **** im saying this oil in our trans just doesn't work right and it doesn't help that i drove it for a year with this mtf in it before i could do the synchros.
All i can say is what ive seen in using the mtf, if i put oem in the trans instead of mtf at the beginning i would have been fine
All this took place before i really started on this site, i never had issues until i put the amsoil in and not realizing amsoil was the problem i used it again, still having the problem i put oem in and it worked much better again...so it wasn't the oil is what your saying??
im not the only person whose used the amsoil mtf and had problems, im not saying the companies **** im saying this oil in our trans just doesn't work right and it doesn't help that i drove it for a year with this mtf in it before i could do the synchros.
All i can say is what ive seen in using the mtf, if i put oem in the trans instead of mtf at the beginning i would have been fine
Bingo, and if you go to Amsoil's site and enter our car MTG is on the list, but not MTF.
Aluminum, lubed with white lithium grease, I checked them and moved the shifter around before I started it I'm 99% sure it isn't them. Also have a Megan racing short shifter. But I've had that for a long time and its always worked great.
I got another theory on maybe my rear suspension sagged and my car is sitting at an angle therefor I overfilled a little
I got another theory on maybe my rear suspension sagged and my car is sitting at an angle therefor I overfilled a little
Over filling should be ok, I do that too. 2.2 liters are required and I went between 2.5 and 2.7.
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I guess il have to report back tomorrow morning then after I get to school, I'm try and let it run for a few minutes before I drive. Let it warm up and all. I don't mind it feeling a little ify but locked out of second is a problem for me
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The gearbox needs just over 2 quarts. If you mix in a quart of MTF, that's almost a 1:1 ratio of a product that Amsoil themselves do not list for the car.
I would not do it or tell a friend to do it, mother in law maybe ...
I would not do it or tell a friend to do it, mother in law maybe ...
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I'm still gonna stick with amsoil though for motor oil.
seriously look at other threads amsoil is **** and killed my synchros and 2nd gear after like 100 kms remove that **** anput oem in man soon as possible, redline mtf, bg synchroshift, and gm synchromesh are good, remove the amsoil or likeme youll be doi ng a tranny rebuild real soon
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/04...ll-really.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/04...ll-really.html
what proof do you have its the amsoill killing your tranny, and not a part failure or aggressive driving? I've been using amsoil in my trans for the past 30,000miles, 500whp, no issues.
That's just my experience i guess, nothing else has changed in my tranny in the meantime except for that oil change back to oem and it was like night and day but the damage to my 2nd gear had already been done.
you guys are also all talking about mtg i used mtf so its completely different oil
edit 1: it was mtg i was using
Last edited by RallyartRob; Feb 8, 2013 at 11:37 AM.