your RT is !!!!NOT!!!!part of your 60' or ET. you can sit there and have a smoke /w a greenlight and it wont make a diff on the time. doesnt start counting until you break the gates

 

I think we know what you mean.

WADAD

 

woops, edited. kinda a critical mistake

 

ya, what they said.

 

Ok.. If you plan on doin H2H racing then no it doesnt.. but in my case where I am running Braket races this year RT Counts ALOT for me.I am consistent for my ET's just the RT isnt where it should be yet.If I get that nailed I will be golden so dont go telling me what isnt important!!
Second.. you were complaining about your RT's and 60's.. I gave alot of helpful info in the 60's part.. The RT's I threw in there for a helpful hint since you werent really happy with your RT's.Doubtful that you used it seeings as it came from a CHICK. So,When you run Pro Brakets on the NDRA Circuit.. then YOU can tell ME what to do and what is and isnt important.I gave you some helpful info-Weather or not You used it is beyond me,but DONT put it down or degrade it.I dont do that to you so have some respect and dont do it to me.And if you were planning on doing H2H classes then fine,Good luck.I dont run Head 2 Head yet Since the RA isnt a 9 second car yet and likely wont be for a year or so.

Dont take what I am saying the wrong way,I was just tryin to help.. Obviously guys arent ready for girls to know thier Sh*t.Or Atleast thats how you all come across.. Just my .02

 

Tell 'em sister!!! lol Sorry, I've been waiting 4 days for you to notice. I don't think they were bagging because you were a girl, just because you were right! Now to be fair, they were right too, RT does not count toward ET. It is however the deciding factor in case of a tie. Or any proffesional race I guess...

So ya got any hot pictures... of your car?
What can I say. I'm a sucker for AWD.

 

Where is this all coming from?

Doesn't matter whether you are on the NDRA circuit or not. The RT is not a part of your actual 1/4 mile time. The only thing RT measures is how long it takes for you to move from the tree once it goes green which you know. Now whether in case of a tie it falls back to R/T etc is a different story, but the actual 1/4 mile time is a completely separate thing.

WADAD

 

In bracket or handicap racing, RT does count. The slower car has a headstart handicap basing from their qualifying round . . . have seen a high 19 sec car beat a 10 and 13 sec car in the event. It rewards people who are consistent and not cheating by turning up the boost or NOS in the elimination round to garner lower times.

Silly Example of handicap/bracket racing in qualifying rounds:
1) Chrysler Lebaron droptop - NA - Auto tranny: 19.85 sec w/ a .857 RT = 20.707 Q-time
2) Evo whatever - TC - manual: 12.72 sec w/ a 1.2 RT = 13.92 Q-time

If they happen to meet up again in the elimination round, the lebaron will have a headstart of 6.787 sec headstart, and the Evo will have to chase and cross the line first to win.

Both driver cannot redlight.
Winner= crossing the line first.
Loser = having lower times than your Q-round and not crossing the line first. Example: The Evo whatever cannot turn up the boost during elimination round and clocking 11.572 ETA = eliminated.

From experience, winner are usually in the 15 sec Qualifiers.

http://www.asmartin.com/b_et.htm
bracket racing explanation

 

wow, i guess is truck a nerve =( i didnt know u were a girl, so dont think that influenced what anything i said. i meet up with a group of friends when we go out to race, and most of the dirvers are girls and many are better than me. has nothing to do with it, trust me =)
and you never said what kind of racing you were doing. yea, bracket racing is a diff story. where I race, they have 4 classes race on the same strip, one being test&tune (me), another being handicapped brackets. i know the diff, as i have been considering starting to enter the brackets myself. but the fact is that neither i nor anyone else here knew that you were talking about that. alot of people on here have 0 racing experience and i've heard more than once 'ohh, your ET was 15.4, but your RT was .4, so you really were in the 14s!'.

so i'll say it again:
your RT is !!!!NOT!!!!part of your 60' or ET. you can sit there and have a smoke /w a greenlight and it wont make a diff on the time. doesnt start counting until you break the gates

i never said it didnt count. i said it didnt count as part of your ET. and btw, I did take your other advice. most of its stuff I have been doing for a while, except for overinflating the rears. It makes sense and I will give it a try tonight. didnt mean to push any buttons, was just trying to help those who may have been confused by what you said, as its happened before.

(btw, is it me, or is 1/2 the ralliart crowd from FL & PA?)

 

I concur. It has to be auto. There aren't many manual sedan Civics. From experience manual version w/ general bolt-ons (whether sedan or coupe) can flog between 16's to mid 17's (body kit and all). The only HB civics that I have seen besides the SI's are the really early 90's and late 80's, and they clock in the low 20's, not pretty.

Also, there is another type of racing: Grudge matches, and they can get pretty lopsided.

 

new best time tonight: 15.406 @ 90.11mph

the exhaust lets me launch way up at 4k rpm now =) my 60' needs some practice up here, but the top end really helps. i dunno where the heck my shift point is now, tho. my ET isnt much lower, so i'm thinking i might be shifting too soon now. lol! back to the dyno for me

 

Again.. Goin back to it... I DIDNT SAY NDRA IN GENERAL COUNTS IT.. I SAID IN BRAKET RACES AND HADICAPP RACES IT COUNTS!! READ... PLEASE.. off the sopa box now

Those of you who got the point of brakets and such... thanks.. I noticed there isnt many ppl on here with racing EXP.. Thats part of the reason why I am taking the RA to NOPI this year.I figure I can get more parts made and available if I do good and not to mention OUR car ( the RALLIART) will be in a spotlight.Sorry Evo guys.. but as bad as I want one,The RA deserves the light now.. we all know what the Evo can do.. lol
BLK-ITs Cool.. Its jsut the way it came across origionally. I shoulda specified in the first place on where it does matter.I thought it would help especially if you were goin into braket racing.But in a sense,You still dont want a bad RT.It can mean the difference in winning and losing in the event of a tie in Heads up races.Also .. IN a sense it would help in the fact of the faster you get off the line and out the gates.. The better your chance of crossing the line first is(speaking on a heads up Point of View)BECAUSE.. in the event of a tie(rarely happens but it still does) the better RT will take the win.. so if you get off the line first and the other guy has to catch up to you and you run the SAME TIME(which has happened,most notably last year in the NHRA the Pedregons did it a few times and Force did it too).. The better RT will win. Thats The Point of view I probably shoulda stated to begin with.

Glad you are working on the advice I gave you...I have been working on it a bit and have been quite consistent in my times.RT like I said still needs a little bit of help ( mine),but its getting there.I redlighted last week 3 times at Test and tune,but later on in the day I was Nailing Great RT's all day.. .100 and less.

And yeah vast majority of this board is from either PA or FL.. weird.. BTW Go to the Nopi Events at Moroso this year.. I will be there.It would be cool to meet a RA owner at a race,I wouldnt feel so alone.. lol.

 

Good luck with your races.^^^

I'm glad to see someone else who has the same passion I do for racing.

WADAD

 

Thanks... Dont forget to come see me race this year.. Moroso and Bradenton.. moroso is in June and Bradenton is October 8th and 9th( I remember that one cause its 4 days after my birthday).. But yeah.. Follow the Nopi Circuit.. Thats where you will find me racing..oh and I dont bite hard so dont be afraid to say hi and introduce yourself.. lol.JK.. I really dont bite.. I actually like meeting people with the RA.. Especially ones who like to race... so If you go.. Just say hi to me or whatever..I am approachable.

 

Are you doing the full circuit this year? I think Nopi is coming through St. Louis on July 23-24 over at Gateway International. Do you think you'll make that one? Let me know and maybe I can get luck04 to go out there as well. I can't wait to see what my RA does with a 75 wet shot. I doubt I'm consistent enough to race professionally now anyways! Good luck this year no matter what. We need all the exposure we can get.