P0171: System too lean (bank 1)
nerdbot, did you noticed if any air leaks after the maf? that misfires seem to be because ECU didn't recognize that much air entering the combustion chamber, since it is not recognized, enough fuel is not injected thus causing poor AFR's and possibly missfires... the car wouldn't pull at WOT because it entered at Limp Mode.. did you notice if you could revv past 3k or 4k rpms??
You can read the thread here
A forum search showed me a number of people had problems with these codes with their RRM CAI.
Everything's just dandy now though, problem solved.
edit - the MAF results showed the car wasn't getting enough air, which I really don't understand (with a P&P mani, upgraded throttle body, and cold air intake)
Last edited by nerdbotSKRA; Mar 28, 2012 at 06:51 PM.
yeah mine threw CEL again...
.. this happens a lot since I removed an exhaust resonator S chamber type.. since then CEL comes and goes on and off wildly... maybe I am losing backpressure and O2 readings are bad????
.. this happens a lot since I removed an exhaust resonator S chamber type.. since then CEL comes and goes on and off wildly... maybe I am losing backpressure and O2 readings are bad????
My car has been throwing this code but mine's a little more serious in the fact that my car won't start at all. I don't know if the car won't start because of something causing the code or if it's something else. This happened after a rain storm so, can a failed maf cause the car to not start?
When I turn the ignition it car sputters and then dies out. If I press on the gas continually after I have turned it over it just sputters and doesn't make it over 1000 rpms. I have been told that it might be a failed maf, no fuel pressure, or water in the engine.
I am going to pick up some parts today so that I can do a compression test and make sure that everything with my cai is still snug.
When I turn the ignition it car sputters and then dies out. If I press on the gas continually after I have turned it over it just sputters and doesn't make it over 1000 rpms. I have been told that it might be a failed maf, no fuel pressure, or water in the engine.
I am going to pick up some parts today so that I can do a compression test and make sure that everything with my cai is still snug.
My car has been throwing this code but mine's a little more serious in the fact that my car won't start at all. I don't know if the car won't start because of something causing the code or if it's something else. This happened after a rain storm so, can a failed maf cause the car to not start?
When I turn the ignition it car sputters and then dies out. If I press on the gas continually after I have turned it over it just sputters and doesn't make it over 1000 rpms. I have been told that it might be a failed maf, no fuel pressure, or water in the engine.
I am going to pick up some parts today so that I can do a compression test and make sure that everything with my cai is still snug.
When I turn the ignition it car sputters and then dies out. If I press on the gas continually after I have turned it over it just sputters and doesn't make it over 1000 rpms. I have been told that it might be a failed maf, no fuel pressure, or water in the engine.
I am going to pick up some parts today so that I can do a compression test and make sure that everything with my cai is still snug.
Before doing anything else, remove spark plugs and injectors harness and crank 2 or 3 times.. see if water came out of any of the cylinders..
Try disconnecting MAF harness and see if problem persists.. if it does then the MAF may be wrong.
I remember that removing MAF enters the car in limp mode and doesn't let you get so far on RPM but past 2K rpms it does.
Remove battery negative terminal for 10 secs, plug again and start you engine with the MAF connected once.. and once without it.. see what happens and post your results
So I did a compression test and I got these numbers:
1: 170
2: 186
3: 176
4: 183
I figured those were pretty good numbers so I called that good and moved onto the next thing. I also didn't see water squirting out when I turned it over. I put everything back together and disconnected the maf then went to start my car and it idled perfectly. It continued to run while I put all of my tools away too. Thank you for your help with how to figure out what was wrong. I am almost completely positive it is the maf so I will order a new one as soon as I can.
Thanks again!
1: 170
2: 186
3: 176
4: 183
I figured those were pretty good numbers so I called that good and moved onto the next thing. I also didn't see water squirting out when I turned it over. I put everything back together and disconnected the maf then went to start my car and it idled perfectly. It continued to run while I put all of my tools away too. Thank you for your help with how to figure out what was wrong. I am almost completely positive it is the maf so I will order a new one as soon as I can.
Thanks again!
Please say no hahaha. If you do, you may try to clean it using electronic cleaner and I would suggest to do a 2nd clean up with ethylic alcohol and tips.. just make sure it doesnt stay there.
I have already taken off the whole intake system, wiped it down, dried it and let it sit for a good 2 hours before trying to drive the car.
The air filter is oiled from the manufacturer but I've used the same one for five years. I'm assuming thats bad, should I get a different, non-oiled one?
The air filter is oiled from the manufacturer but I've used the same one for five years. I'm assuming thats bad, should I get a different, non-oiled one?
i've been running an oiled filter in my 03 ES for like 3 years, it still runs, but the MAF is quite different, maybe the honeycomb stuff is catching the oil...lol
just replace the MAF...clear the code, start engine.
just replace the MAF...clear the code, start engine.
And from now on before installing any filter please wash it with warm water and soap and let it dry. Don't use oil that say it will be better because dirt and all that stuff..
I live in mexico in a place where dirt is a major problem.. whenever I have to take out my front, I wash my filter with water only. Don't use oil, not even a little..
I live in mexico in a place where dirt is a major problem.. whenever I have to take out my front, I wash my filter with water only. Don't use oil, not even a little..
You don't use oil to clean filter, you clean it with water and soap and after it dries you give a small spray outside of oil to catch more dirt and all that stuff. Then this oil comes in and gets in the maf.
Changed the maf and disconnected the battery to see what would happen. The car did the exact same thing where it would start and then immediately die (sort of like stalling out). I'm starting to think it's not associated with the code I was getting.


