If you had $10k to spend on your Ralliart (and wanted to)
It doesn't cost anymore to insure the Ralliart or the EVO. Trust me I know because I have both in the family. As far as gas it might be a $200 difference a year, big deal. The maintainence is not that much different for either car. I don't consider oil/tires a maintainence item, rather a neccesity.
The note on my EVO is $337 a month vs the $300 for the Ralliart, I would say the extra money is worth it. The Ralliart is a great car, but the EVO is truly a different beast. Outside I would still tell you to get an EVO, and yes I can read.
The note on my EVO is $337 a month vs the $300 for the Ralliart, I would say the extra money is worth it. The Ralliart is a great car, but the EVO is truly a different beast. Outside I would still tell you to get an EVO, and yes I can read.
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Originally Posted by MikeDVB
Yeah thanks! I agree with reading the original post!!! Getting an Evo may still be a possibility but I am currently looking what could be done with my RA.
I'd be doing all installation myself and probably end up paying for somebody to dyno tune it for me. My first buy would be the turbo kit, clutch and flywheel, and probably do the LSD while I was at it, then I'd work on suspension and brakes with what I had left.
And my 17" wheels are actually chrome plated, not 100% chrome - they're still pretty light.
Mike
I'd be doing all installation myself and probably end up paying for somebody to dyno tune it for me. My first buy would be the turbo kit, clutch and flywheel, and probably do the LSD while I was at it, then I'd work on suspension and brakes with what I had left.
And my 17" wheels are actually chrome plated, not 100% chrome - they're still pretty light.
Mike
I did read your first post and more or less everyone has mentioned what parts you should put your 10K into your RA.
However, you should keep an open mind and explore your options of getting an EVO as well. Okay the words of some may not turn out right, but perhaps they have their point too. The EVO comes from the factory. which means everything from the piston to the brake system is calibrated for the power that the EVO produces. Utimately the cost of ownership HP to HP, the EVO may have the better costings.
But since you you already have an RA, selling it now, may involved in some losses. So now its a mathamatical game as well.......
By this I dont mean that after market turbo charging is not good. Its a matter of cost of ownership for a given number of HPs. At the end, the choice is yours and whatever makes you happy is the key to this post I am posting.
Can anyone tell me the price difference between a RA and A EVO? In Singapore, the price of our RA is about 73,000 versus EVO at about 137,000 so there is a 64,000 difference between the two.....so that is about.......USD38,000.
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I'm not looking to "Beat" the evo or "Be the fastest". Perhaps I should just lock this... If you think what I listed is great then reply with "sounds like a good setup to me."
If you think I should get some other completely different parts for it, then reply with what parts and who from.
If you think I should get an evo instead and refuse to help me with a parts list, send me a PM.
Don't get me wrong I'd LOVE to have an Evolution 9 - but it's just not feasable for at least a couple years. I can get a loan for 5~10k to make the Ralliart more fun and have it paid off by the time an Evo would be feasible. Or I can just save my money and in 2~3 years drop 15k down on an Evo... who knows!
For me right now the EVO would be about 2x what I am paying now to insure the RA, I can afford the car payments on an Evo just not the insurance... I looked into it. I pay 220/mo full coverage right now on the RA.
I am exploring the options of letting the wife have the RA and getting the evo here in about a year or two. I *should* be on a police force within the next 2 years making hopefully around 40k/year + benefits so I should be able to afford an EVO =)
Mike
If you think I should get some other completely different parts for it, then reply with what parts and who from.
If you think I should get an evo instead and refuse to help me with a parts list, send me a PM.
Don't get me wrong I'd LOVE to have an Evolution 9 - but it's just not feasable for at least a couple years. I can get a loan for 5~10k to make the Ralliart more fun and have it paid off by the time an Evo would be feasible. Or I can just save my money and in 2~3 years drop 15k down on an Evo... who knows!
For me right now the EVO would be about 2x what I am paying now to insure the RA, I can afford the car payments on an Evo just not the insurance... I looked into it. I pay 220/mo full coverage right now on the RA.
I am exploring the options of letting the wife have the RA and getting the evo here in about a year or two. I *should* be on a police force within the next 2 years making hopefully around 40k/year + benefits so I should be able to afford an EVO =)
Mike
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Originally Posted by otter
I'd prefer AMS or Buschur because, first off, it's nice to have a "local" shop tune my car, instead of a place that's 2000 miles away from me. Secondly, hopefully it'd interest them in paying more attention to the Ralliart. AMS already does some base Lancer work, with awesome results.
Last edited by GPTourer; Apr 9, 2006 at 07:41 AM.
Originally Posted by MikeDVB
Hello!
I am looking at getting a loan and modifying the car extensively within the next 6 to 10 months.
Disclaimer:
I don't want to hear what I could do instead with the car like trading it in or buying something else... I am going to do this and I am just looking for some outside input to help me pick some parts
If you think I am being stupid or want to rant/flame then do it in a PM to me please. Thanks!
Oh... I would like to order as much as I can from one place so that hopefully I can get some kind of discount, not a big deal if I buy from several places though. I've not added it up and I know that this added up at full price is probably more than $10k but I'd certainly be working some discounts out as I have some local connections.
Introduction
I am going to start by listing what I am looking at (some of it is fairly vague, I don't list where I would get everything or every part I would like to get) Look my list over and feel free to tell me what you'd change, what you would or would not get and where you would get it from... Feel free to add onto my list or change it.
I'd really like to get around 300hp but I'd settle for 250 with a solid suspension setup
What I am looking at:
I was looking at the RRM Turbo Kit (including turbo, ceramic coated tubular exhaust manifold, turbo downpipe, RRM FMIC, BOV, piping, Fuel Management & Injectors (and some other stuff)
I am also wanting to go ahead and throw a limited slip in it while I'm at it, a better clutch - doing the clutch slave modulator delete. Lighter flywheel, porting or replacing intake manifold, maybe some head work - not really looked into it too much, underdrive pulley, full exhaust (maybe the one from RRM), piggyback, engine mounts.
I'm also planning on coilovers, larger front & rear swaybars, rear strut bar, stronger front strut bar, B&M Short throw shifter kit & brass bushings.
I'd be looking into Wideband EGT, A/F, boost/vacuum gauges as well - maybe mounting oil pressure, water & oil temp.
Mike
I am looking at getting a loan and modifying the car extensively within the next 6 to 10 months.
Disclaimer:
I don't want to hear what I could do instead with the car like trading it in or buying something else... I am going to do this and I am just looking for some outside input to help me pick some parts
If you think I am being stupid or want to rant/flame then do it in a PM to me please. Thanks!Oh... I would like to order as much as I can from one place so that hopefully I can get some kind of discount, not a big deal if I buy from several places though. I've not added it up and I know that this added up at full price is probably more than $10k but I'd certainly be working some discounts out as I have some local connections.
Introduction
I am going to start by listing what I am looking at (some of it is fairly vague, I don't list where I would get everything or every part I would like to get) Look my list over and feel free to tell me what you'd change, what you would or would not get and where you would get it from... Feel free to add onto my list or change it.
I'd really like to get around 300hp but I'd settle for 250 with a solid suspension setup
What I am looking at:
I was looking at the RRM Turbo Kit (including turbo, ceramic coated tubular exhaust manifold, turbo downpipe, RRM FMIC, BOV, piping, Fuel Management & Injectors (and some other stuff)
I am also wanting to go ahead and throw a limited slip in it while I'm at it, a better clutch - doing the clutch slave modulator delete. Lighter flywheel, porting or replacing intake manifold, maybe some head work - not really looked into it too much, underdrive pulley, full exhaust (maybe the one from RRM), piggyback, engine mounts.
I'm also planning on coilovers, larger front & rear swaybars, rear strut bar, stronger front strut bar, B&M Short throw shifter kit & brass bushings.
I'd be looking into Wideband EGT, A/F, boost/vacuum gauges as well - maybe mounting oil pressure, water & oil temp.
Mike
personally i would just drive the lancer for a couple of years as is and then when you can afford,buy a better car...i think you will be disappointed if you drop 10k into a car and its still slow and has no resale..at least i would be disappointed if it was me 
Originally Posted by k3lv
^ uhhh I think those numbers are dramatically wrong... theres no way the difference between an Evo and a Ralliart is $38,000 USD.
Originally Posted by Joe's_EVO8
It doesn't cost anymore to insure the Ralliart or the EVO. Trust me I know because I have both in the family. As far as gas it might be a $200 difference a year, big deal. The maintainence is not that much different for either car. I don't consider oil/tires a maintainence item, rather a neccesity.
The note on my EVO is $337 a month vs the $300 for the Ralliart, I would say the extra money is worth it. The Ralliart is a great car, but the EVO is truly a different beast. Outside I would still tell you to get an EVO, and yes I can read.
The note on my EVO is $337 a month vs the $300 for the Ralliart, I would say the extra money is worth it. The Ralliart is a great car, but the EVO is truly a different beast. Outside I would still tell you to get an EVO, and yes I can read.
also, the difference for me getting an evo (35yr old single white father of one, in Chicago) is $112 a month, thats not the payment thats the difference through State Farm...
Well first off State Farm sucks, I switched our Lancers to Esurance and save around $300 every 6 months. Looks like your shopping the wrong place for insurance.
My credit card debt is doing fine. Less than one year out of school and the wife and I have combined credit card debt of around 8 grand. When the avearge credit card debt of a graduating senior from college is 10k I don't feel so bad. Furthermore I got 0% to pay off this debt for the life of the balance, you still calling me not smart?
As far as your $37 a month, I don't feel bad paying it at all. At least I know in 6 years the EVO will still be worth something. The RA sure as hell is not worth anything. The wife's RA is 2 years old, originally financed for 19k and trade in value is 10k. Something is wrong with that picture. 9k drop in a little more than 2 years. It is a great car, but comeon the value sucks.
I don't know what EVO's your looking at but I got my 03' for almost 10k less than that. Use restraint next time you decide to quote one of my posts.
My credit card debt is doing fine. Less than one year out of school and the wife and I have combined credit card debt of around 8 grand. When the avearge credit card debt of a graduating senior from college is 10k I don't feel so bad. Furthermore I got 0% to pay off this debt for the life of the balance, you still calling me not smart?
As far as your $37 a month, I don't feel bad paying it at all. At least I know in 6 years the EVO will still be worth something. The RA sure as hell is not worth anything. The wife's RA is 2 years old, originally financed for 19k and trade in value is 10k. Something is wrong with that picture. 9k drop in a little more than 2 years. It is a great car, but comeon the value sucks.
I don't know what EVO's your looking at but I got my 03' for almost 10k less than that. Use restraint next time you decide to quote one of my posts.
Pretty easy IMO...Call Road Race Engineering...tell them you want more speed...send them your car and tell them they're working within a 10,000 budget...I promise you won't be dissapointed!
Originally Posted by Joe's_EVO8
As far as your $37 a month, I don't feel bad paying it at all. At least I know in 6 years the EVO will still be worth something. The RA sure as hell is not worth anything. The wife's RA is 2 years old, originally financed for 19k and trade in value is 10k. Something is wrong with that picture. 9k drop in a little more than 2 years. It is a great car, but comeon the value sucks.
I don't know what EVO's your looking at but I got my 03' for almost 10k less than that. Use restraint next time you decide to quote one of my posts.