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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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Question Starting problem!

Just changed the headgasket and started it up. It wouldn't idle, but ran if there was a little throttle. The injector gaskets i guess were missing so gas shot out finally and it wouldnt start.

i then installed the injector gaskets and tried again. no fuel coming out of injectors. made sure the plugs were all connected. reset the ecu.

the injectors are now firing, theres spark, and plenty of compression.

am i missing something? it wont fire.


EDIT: Oh yeah by the way, the head had to be shaved since it was warped. my compression tester reads about 160 psi.

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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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u got your timing dead on?
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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yeah. and it was running, but there werent gaskets on the injectors.

so after i fixed all that, it should have run but its just not for whatever reason.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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Damn. This sounds really complicated.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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yeah lol.

my buddys gonna try and borrow a scanner from work so we can read the code that it throws, because we cant seem to figure it out..
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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while we're waiting for a scanner, anyone else have any ideas??
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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try ressetting your ecu again? do you have a piggy on the car? I only ask that because for some weird reason while i had my car torn apart my piggy back voltage levels changed and caused my car to not idle. easy fix though
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 03:05 AM
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no i dont have a piggyback. ill try it again when i get my new battery in. the ecu should be clean by then haha.
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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Did you ever figure this out?
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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I've replaced or troubleshot a handful of head gaskets on cars (that weren't VVT/cam timed) but when the cars wouldn't run it was either because of

a) the fuel pump relay or fuse shorted, you weren't getting fuel.. and then you were, how did that happen? did you flood your car trying to get the engine to turn or does the fuel pump even prime when the car is put in to ign? Are your fuel lines backwards (buddy's 180sx would't turn because the fuel lines were backwards, he had spark, good compression, but no fuel so it wouldn't fire, we scratched our heads for awhile over that one..)

b) timing was not correct, did you use a timing gun or did you verify by hand cranking?timing being one tooth off on the cam gear can sometimes cause a car not to turn over

c) distributer cap needed adjustments or the coil packs and plug wires weren't connected proper

d) there was a vacuum leak/vacuum lines were not routed properly.

If you have good compression in your cylinders, you're getting fuel from fuel lines to your injectors, and you have good spark (timing, fuel delivery and ignition systems are sorted properly) then I would double check the vacuum lines and routing for leaks, even check the egr

When you get it running let us know what was up..
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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the reason i was getting fuel and then didnt was because the injector gaskets were missing and after reving a couple times the gas shot out where the injectors plug in and the cel light came on. i think the ecu wouldnt let the fuel shoot because the error code it threw because i reset it and now theres fuel.

ive yet to figure it out. i want to pull the code and see what it is. but damn scanners are expensive.

do you guys know if our car throws a code from there being coolant in the oil? thats the only thing i havent changed out is the oil. its still a little milky.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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dangit i want my ralliart back! haha im driving my moms honda crv around. vtec just doesnt cut it. :P
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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I think it would still run with coolant in the oil, it would just burn it off and smell a little weird.. I don't think there's a sensor that reads oil composition, just the oil level and temperature. If there was it would be awesome, your car would be saying "THERE'S SOMETHING IN MY OIL AND I DON'T LIKE IT!" haha.. unless there actually is...hmmm..
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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Well, if you have coolant in your oil that means that a head gasket is blown or not sealed right which is not good. I'm guessing you got the coolant in your oil when you changed your head gasket.

Coolant in your oil is also being used to lube your bearings. That is also bad because it will damage the bearings if prolonged, but that would have to be for a while and a lot of coolant.

A code won't be generated for coolant in oil, but you may get a code for a leak (head, manifold, ect)
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 08:14 AM
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Pretty sure the coolant in the oil is the reason he changed the gasket
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