Maybe even a 6 speed huh? Very nice!

 

That being said, if I was Mitsubishi and wanted to recup my development costs on the TC-SST, I would not announce a manual tranny just yet. I'd put the car on sale with only the auto tranny, the guys who can't wait to get it would buy it with the SST, and then I'd announce the manual in order to sell to those who won't buy the car with the auto. That's the best way to do business. [/QUOTE]

They are not going to recoup development costs on selling 1000 MR's and 3-4000 Ralliarts!! Maybe there are more guys that want the auto than the stick. That is what market research is for. If you need the stick just go GSR.

 

If you cannot wait, yeah, go for the GSR. One thing is, IF Mitsubishi is to make a proper response to Subaru and if they really wanted to counter Subaru, they have to think back on a 3D platform.
Subaru has a sedans, hatchbacks which is offered in auto & stick on AWD systems with high HP engines. And you can get them all stateside vs overseas. That is the versatility. Does have the bank to respond properly? MMNA just may not have the funds. So they are trying out this market which IS new for the average consumer. Hoping they would capitalize on the TC-SST and in the 21st century of new age mechanics; its a decent start.

One thing did right IMO, is that they built the X to beat anything that Subaru has to offer. (as of now)
And on this you got the GSR (old skool5spd) or the new MR (new skool TC-SST)
Kinda put things into perspective.

 

5 speed I want one . A bitt cheaper than an X . Less bs, and more money to mod.

 

Personally, i don't think Mitsu need to make any counter strategy against the WRX's higher performance. The direction that mitsu's currently taking (obvious from the way how Evo X's developed), is towards more mature crowds. Ralliart Lancer is just exactly that.

Its a known fact that the mature aged audience is the ones with the buying power. WRX is still considered as a boy racer in everyone's eyes.

 

Not a chance.

 

How about a 6 speed manual evo X MR? Thats what I want, and while there at it they should add 50 HP.

When it comes to performance the evo's upgrades are all business. You will be lucky if the money you save can buy enough mods to get even with the evo. If you can match its performance then you will still have a narrower track, and less aggressive looks.

 

Agreed.

 

I'm sorry but you're completely wrong on all counts. Mitsubishi is not targeting mature people with either the evo or the Ralliart, they are targeting young people with money. The evo isn't refined and it's certainly not luxurious, if I was going to buy a car in my late 30s and 40s, I wouldn't even consider anything built by Mitsubishi. The Ralliart is clearly designed to target the just out of college crowd, ie. younger buyers who are just beginning to get into money. To say that the Ralliart is mature but the WRX is boy racer is just ridiculous, they're the same car just made by different companies.

 

I have to agree, both the X and the RA are boy racer styled, I personally enjoy their aggressive look's, but I couldn't imagine there would be much of a market in the 35-40 year old range....

 

I am 40 and make 6 figures. It is hard for me to get past the boy racer thing but I want AWD without spending a fortune and still want some solid performance. I would consider the A4 my only other option. WRX maybe but very ugly. I have never owned nor ever even considered a Mitsu product. I do not want the stick or the firmness of an EVO for a daily driver. I don't really want to spend 35k (A4) for a car that sits in a parking lot all day. So the SST is really what is drawing me in plus I do like the look.

Good alternative cars for me are the new Mazda 6, Aura, Malibu, G8, Charger and possibly the new Maxima. I have a Ridgeline, Sequoia, 72 Skylark and 72 Corvette. Just sold my Infiniti. So for me to even be shopping a RA is a tip of the hat to them.

I think young people can't afford the payments or the insurance. When I look at the STI a month ago they told me most buyers they have sold to are 40-50ish. Not 20-30.

 

My dad is 55 and drives an 05 sti. I'm 33 with an evo. I don't think my age has had an effect on my love of performance vehicles. I admit I wanted to take the wing off, but my wife would not let me. SHe said it would look like a grandpa car without the wing. I thing the evo ix looks really nice wingless, and not boy racer. To fix a subaru you have to remove the wing and the hood scoop.

 

 

may i ask you guys what you mean about boy racer look?
Since these cars looks like a rally cars, which is they basically are.
So where is the boy racer look?
I would call a Camry with little wing a boy racer look.
But not the STI or the Evo. What you see is functional there.
So i dont know..
For me the Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche or the Exige is more boy racer looking with the big wing, and some colors then anything else. Or those are excluded because of they price?
So wont matter how it looks, if its expensive then it is all good?
Dont go that extreme, then how about the RS4 , AMG CLK 65, etc. Those have they own /very/ racer looking design, but i guess they fine since they are expensive.

So what is the boy racer looking car is exactly?

 

The RS4 is really pretty sedate looking, all things considered. Different wheels, some subtle gills on the front bumper, different exhaust, and some badging.

The CLK65...doesn't exist.

I could keep going, but I don't think I even need to.