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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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I don't care who the car is really directed to. That is Mitsubishi's prerogative.
My only care is if the car suits my needs. The R/A is for me. I have the money for the X. But for the price i PREFER to pay, I am not going to get s**t for that price.
I want the NAVI, SSS, the whole nine.
I like Subaru. I think the hatch back is ok. The sedan is fine.
But I just like the looks of Mitsubishi more. I like the TC-SST. I am fond of my Lancer's CVT but it's not real and has no power and I like the idea of paddle shifting gears.
I don't care if there is a manual on it's way. I think that is for people who want to mod their car heavily.
But for those who are waiting for the manual, i don't think the price will be much different then the TC-SST on the R/A, so i heard.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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I am 40 and make 6 figures. It is hard for me to get past the boy racer thing but I want AWD without spending a fortune and still want some solid performance. I would consider the A4 my only other option. WRX maybe but very ugly. I have never owned nor ever even considered a Mitsu product. I do not want the stick or the firmness of an EVO for a daily driver. I don't really want to spend 35k (A4) for a car that sits in a parking lot all day. So the SST is really what is drawing me in plus I do like the look.

Good alternative cars for me are the new Mazda 6, Aura, Malibu, G8, Charger and possibly the new Maxima. I have a Ridgeline, Sequoia, 72 Skylark and 72 Corvette. Just sold my Infiniti. So for me to even be shopping a RA is a tip of the hat to them.

I think young people can't afford the payments or the insurance. When I look at the STI a month ago they told me most buyers they have sold to are 40-50ish. Not 20-30.
You vastly underestimate the ability of young people to make money. I'm 22 and I can easily afford the payments and the insurance on my WRX. Quite a few people I know are young (mid 20s to mid 30s) and they have STIs, bikes, Lotuses and some are even considering Porsches. If you know what you're doing, you can be 25 with a 6 figure income easily.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
may i ask you guys what you mean about boy racer look?
Since these cars looks like a rally cars, which is they basically are.
So where is the boy racer look?
I would call a Camry with little wing a boy racer look.
But not the STI or the Evo. What you see is functional there.
So i dont know..
For me the Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche or the Exige is more boy racer looking with the big wing, and some colors then anything else. Or those are excluded because of they price?
So wont matter how it looks, if its expensive then it is all good?
Dont go that extreme, then how about the RS4 , AMG CLK 65, etc. Those have they own /very/ racer looking design, but i guess they fine since they are expensive.

So what is the boy racer looking car is exactly?
Boy racer just means fast, aggressive styling and cheap, all of which apply to Subaru and Mitsubishi. Exotics don't count since they violate the third rule. Moreover, boy racer cars generally neeed to be rough around the edges meaning not luxurious and not something your grandmother would want to drive.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
You vastly underestimate the ability of young people to make money. I'm 22 and I can easily afford the payments and the insurance on my WRX. Quite a few people I know are young (mid 20s to mid 30s) and they have STIs, bikes, Lotuses and some are even considering Porsches. If you know what you're doing, you can be 25 with a 6 figure income easily.
It also helps if you still live at home with your parents. Hey, I was a victim of it too. All I wanted was the cool car (which back in the day was a slightly used 2nd gen. RX-7) and thanks to the generous support of my family in supplying my 3 square meals and day and a roof over my head, car payments were easy! That ended 15 years ago. Man reality blows.......still waiting for that Lotus.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Lol that certainly helps, I still live at home and it essentially makes all of my income disposable.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
I'm sorry but you're completely wrong on all counts. Mitsubishi is not targeting mature people with either the evo or the Ralliart, they are targeting young people with money. The evo isn't refined and it's certainly not luxurious, if I was going to buy a car in my late 30s and 40s, I wouldn't even consider anything built by Mitsubishi. The Ralliart is clearly designed to target the just out of college crowd, ie. younger buyers who are just beginning to get into money. To say that the Ralliart is mature but the WRX is boy racer is just ridiculous, they're the same car just made by different companies.
So, i'm totally wrong and your proof comes from??? Its really an each to its own kinda thing. I can't say you are wrong and neither can you.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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I can easily say you are wrong since the Evo is by no means aimed at a more "mature" audience, as was your idea.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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was at the mitsu dealer and a guy roasted his EVO X mr 6spd sst at the track, and he found out the 5spd bolts up perfectly to the mrs paddle shift, so now hes got a 5 spd paddle shift mr, guy at mitsu said its a direct bolt up basicly, could use that to improve qtr mile times and 0 to 60 times
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Boy racer just means fast, aggressive styling and cheap, all of which apply to Subaru and Mitsubishi. Exotics don't count since they violate the third rule. Moreover, boy racer cars generally neeed to be rough around the edges meaning not luxurious and not something your grandmother would want to drive.
so with other words if its expensive its oke... = snob
Now with the comfort and so on, the exotics not really shining there also.. Like F40 - GT3 RS - etc.
I can see my grand ma drive the WRX then the GT3 RS.

But oke i got it.

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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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Oh and my proof comes from Mitsubishi's own website, no one can tell me that using lines like "Wasabi for concrete" is aimed at older and more mature drivers.
How can the 5-speed bolt on and use the 6-speed paddles? The mechanism is different.

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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
so with other words if its expensive its oke... = snob
Now with the comfort and so on, the exotics not really shining there also.. Like F40 - GT3 RS - etc.
I can see more my grand ma in the WRX then the GT3 RS.
True but the main point is cost and to an extent, who makes the car. Porsche will never make a "boy racer" car.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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understood. thanks .
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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the 5spd tranny does, so instead of shifting 6 gears you have 5
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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How can it though? The TC-SST is a fundamentally different transmission and is computer operated (and thus can receive electronic inputs). How can a completely mechanical transmission like the 5-speed work with electronic inputs like the paddles or are the paddles actually directly linked through a linkage system to the gear selector?
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Oh and my proof comes from Mitsubishi's own website, no one can tell me that using lines like "Wasabi for concrete" are aimed at older and more mature drivers.
How can the 5-speed bolt on and use the 6-speed paddles? The mechanism is different.
if i'm right they even have some change on the chassis too, to mount the SST.
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