While scanning through the EVO X forums, I came across this thread.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=359008

I think it is safe to assume that the Ralliart will also have a similar function. This will significantly bring down the 0-60 and 60' time.

Car & Driver demonstrating Launch Control on MR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S5D6wA6ZJw

 

I don´t think ralliart will include Launch Control.. but anyway, the car will be intended for street/track use... not 1/4 mile.

 

it has been stated already that the ralliart will not have the Super sport mode, which includes launch control.

 

Right, and several tests confirm no launch mode as is reflected in the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Without launch control and looking at pricing, it seems to me that Mitsu is really putting this car up against the AT WRX and isn't that interested in buyers who look at 0-60, 1/4 mile, hp, etc., as primary indicators of performance.

 

I'm wondering if any of the aftermarket tuners will develop a launch control mechanism for the RA. I think it's just ecu programming right?

 

Yeah, they don't care about the majority of the people who are buying vehicles such as the wrx, speed 3, srt4. This car doesn't even handle as well as the GTS model.

 

EG6MOTION- That is why I said it will have a SIMILAR FUNCTION because i know it doesn't have a S-Sport mode. It completely possible Mitsu will just put launch control in Sport Mode.

CREST- so since the EVOX MR has launch control I guess it is meant for drag racing...well at least according to your logic. The point of launch control is give you a perfect launch every time, by taking as much of the human element out of it. Which is the main reason for the dual clutch tranny; to give the perfect shift every time by taking out the human element.

If you watch the youtube link he clearly states the launch control is not even printed in the owners manual for the MR. It is quite possible when edmunds did their reviews they did not know the car had a launch control either.

 

It seems unlikely that Edmunds wouldn't ask and wouldn't be told about the undocumented launch control, since they know about the MR and want to get the best times possible. Also, didn't one review mentioned that you could brake-torque like you do in a regular AT for a full-on launch? If so, seems like a last resort for anyone with with access to Mitsu's product launch people.

As far as aftermarket launch control, that is a definite possibility for both ECU crackers and piggyback. Just a question of how long and it could be awhile since people are gonna proceed with caution with this $10K replacement-only tranny.

 

Car and Driver brake-boosted it. Not advisable at all though. Normally in an auto, the torque converter takes the force of this and slips. In this tranny (the SST), there is no torque converter, only clutches. It would be highly inadvisable to force this kind of slippage on a 5K+ transmission. But that's up to the individual. Either way, its not a good measure of street performance seeing as how nobody really engages a launch control mechanism at the stop light. As stated above though, there is no launch control, no matter how hard you wish. I suppose it would be possible in the future to program it in though via piggyback, standalone, or flash. I had launch control options when I tuned my civic back in the day.

 

Can you prove that????

 

Well, with the tires they put on the RA, apparently the GTS outhandles it even with all-seasons in Edmund's testing:

At the test track we measured the all-wheel-drive Ralliart's maximum stick to be 0.81g on the skid pad. The last front-wheel-drive Lancer GTS we tested managed to grip better with 0.86g, and that was with all-season tires. The performance of the Ralliart also trailed in the slalom test with a 65.0-mph best to the GTS's 65.5 mph. The Evo GSR posted 0.99g and a blistering 70.7-mph run through the cones. It doesn't add up to an impressive performance by the Ralliart.

The story doesn't get much better in the braking test, either. The Ralliart, with its two-piston front calipers borrowed from the Outlander SUV, covered 128 feet stopping from 60 mph, whereas the GTS only required 118 feet. The Evo? 112 feet. Tires make a difference, don't they?

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=127586. It's almost like they want avoid any kind of real comparison with any other cars and only attract buyers who will love it for itself.

 

I hate how they act like it's the tires too... They are better tires than the GTS! Just a heavy car with a narrow track. But it will still be a good all around car.

 

What's it gonna take in terms of good tires to get results equal to the GTS on all-seasons?

 

The Ra weighs about 400 pounds more than the GTS. The tires don't have enough grip even though they have more stick. The tires are way too narrow. The Ra weighs almost as much as the Evo X GSR and they put 215mm wide tires on the Ra. This car needs 235mm wide versions of the tire it has now at the minimum to out perform the GTS. I'm pretty sure Mitsu dialed in the stock suspension to suck on purpose to prevent it from being too fast. I'm just speculating, though.


What I really care about is how will the Ra respond with a set of these tires in 17"x255mm form on Volk RE30 17x9 inch form with fender pulling, coilover upgrade and maybe with a rear swaybar upgrade:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.j...irePageLocQty=

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.j...irePageLocQty=

 

Then I guess either the MS6 came with fantastic tires or the RA really does have handling deficit vs. the GTS. The 3590 lbs. MS6 comes with Bridgestone Potenza RE050A, 215/45R-18s and managed a 121 ft. 60-0, a .86 on the skidpad, and 64.9 mph slalom (R&T, March '06).

I hope the RA will take 235s without rubbing. I'm not about to roll any fenders.